14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

The Inconvenient Truth: Children cried out to the police to come into the school and save their lives and the police would not do it.

 

I used the 'dog in a cage' only as an analogy. Personally, I have gotten to the point where I prefer animals on four legs to those with two legs.... Still, if we 'fortify' our prisons sufficiently, and, KEEP the criminals in there for their full terms, there should be no problems. But the bleeding-hearts on the Left won't hear of it!

 

It would be better if our society could manage to educate almost all children so that they will have the skills necessary to support himself and his family. Our current system manufactures criminals and addicts.

CBS NEWS, ”Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read" CBS, 3/7/13.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03...recent-nyc-high-school-graduates-cannot-read/

 

I am okay with considering the factors of repeat offences when considering prison sentences, definitely.

However, I think any reasonable person can admit that most prisons focus on containment and punishment, not rehabilitation.

And that containment and punishment seems to have an ever increasing cost, not just in dollars we pay, but in the minds of the criminals.

Threatening their lives seems to have a limited impact. The greater the crime, like mass killers, the greater the chance the killer will ALREADY kill themselves before the police can.

Any ideas on how we deal with that?

 

Why do you keep repeating this lie over and over? I have told you before, I think more than once, that the NRA is not a trade association. The Firearms trade association in the US is the NSSF. There is no point attempting to have a reasoned discussion with you if you opt to just keep ignoring facts.

 

Government, not mass shooters, are by far the deadliest threat to humanity.
Surely you know that.

 

Exactly.
Devise laws that restrict ownership!
Make checks REALLY checks.
Look into their internet correspondence.
Who do they hang out with?
Are they employed?
REFERENCES.
You do these things to get a job.
You can do it to get a gun that can kill people!

 

No I don't know that and I consider that you have denied the validity of your democracy.
It is as close to treason as I would care to consider.

 

It was a rejection of an external power.
Pulleese dont treat me like an idiot.

 

Treason for me is Americans that want to subvert the US Constitution and worship globalism. That, likely, would not apply to you, as I am pretty sure you are not an American.

 

No.
In my experiencee they are as exercised about crime and punishment as anyone else.
But they also look to the principle of reestablishment and forgiveness.
Do you not find that the most hard right religionists demand the hardest punishment when their Lord preached love ans forgiveness??
If modern mental care can change someone's behaviour, why should they remain mentally chaîned forever?
Do you not think people are capable of learning?

 

I have always hated and detested any kind of 'Big Brother'-ism more than just about anything else. That said, I think it is clear by now that we must begin to grasp that some in these younger generations, especially them, are very prone to mouthing-off very vehemently, and very specifically about what they want to do to harm people or kill them! And then they actually go on to do it!

Consider: we already have laws that forbid any kind of utterance or declaration threatening a government official! Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_government_officials_of_the_United_States#:~:text=Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony,the United States Secret Service.

"There are three elements of the offense of making an illegal threat: (i) there must be a transmission in interstate commerce; (ii) there must be a communication containing the threat; (iii) and the threat must be a threat to injure the person of another." It sure sounds to me like all these threats that these creatures made before they went on to actually kill people conform to those three conditions (at least). Here I'm assuming that the internet, per se, is included in the description of "interstate commerce".

Now, then, shouldn't we simply expand and extend this to cover all citizens of the United States?! If so, when some wretched, self-styled monster announces on the internet or anywhere else that he's gonna get a gun and go shoot up a school or a store or something, the police can go arrest his ass, throw him in jail, and then he can be prosecuted for making those threats! Maybe after a mandatory, first-offense sentence of a year in prison and a ten thousand dollar fine, he'll decide to find something better to do.... A second-offense would be much, much longer and more expensive....

 

Sir I spent my formative years and almost all my education in the USA.
I learned that no law is written in stone and the Constitution is a result of European philosophy such as Thomas Paine and French philosophers. You are just another interprétation.
You seem to think you found à New Ten Commandments.
NO LAW MADE BY MAN IS IMMUTABLE.

 

BTW your country thrives on globalism.
It made you rich.

 

The NRA is an illegal (not a nonprofit but saying they are, tax cheats ) lobby who stand on the corpses of thousands and are openly complicit in the murders of thousands more

They have one and only one real purpose and that is to make people buy more guns.

They do this largely by treating their members, and the entirety of the rest of America as gullible fools.

In many cases, such as we can see here, it seems they have succeeded.

 

It’s a good thing our rights aren’t bestowed upon us by man. At least in my country. See, I’m bestowed rights simply because I exist. Not because “man” has granted me a right.

 

You will have to find a way to overlook the fact that I'm not willing to negotiate gun ownership with people who just several months ago wanted me eliminated from society for refusing a forced medical treatment.

 

Maybe I can encapsulate my reply in a 22-second video excerpt from an episode of "Sherlock", starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Scott (as Moriarty)....

 

Globalism isn't really Globalism to some. To some it's a code word for "Jews"

 

The cocoa is cold and the Teddy Bear bit me, but I've never yet had the actual real police take more than 5 minutes to respond to any call I made.

Where do you guys live anyway, that all your services are so poor?

 

You can keep repeating the same lie over and over. It is still, a lie, your innuendo not withstanding.

Your entire post above is extreme hyperbole. The NRA is a legal organization founded in 1871. It has legally granted tax exempt status. That is a fact. Claiming otherwise is either ignorance or a bald-faced lie. The NRA is a grass roots organization that was created to teach safe and accurate use of firearms. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action was formed as a legal lobbying organization supported by a grass roots membership. Protecting my Constitutional rights does not constitute complicity in murder. Liberals need to dial back the hysteria and go on record as wanting to eliminate the 2nd Amendment. Do this before the mid-term elections.

Do you suppose that liberal organizations that lobby for open borders and the rights of illegals have tax exempt status?

 

Liberals can repeal the 2nd Amendment. Just get ratification from 38 States. Put up or shut up.

 

major cities. Traffic, other calls pending, short staff, there’s a ton of reasons why things take forever. My first shooting event took an hour for back up to arrive.

thinking the cops will show gets people killed. That’s the point of doing the job yourself.

 

Especially in light of what the supreme Court has ruled the police's duties and responsibilities of the police are... Or in this case, are not....

And this recent school shooting where they basically sat there and waited for the dust to settle.... It takes a damn fool to depend on the police for their personal safety.

They can be thought of as criminal archaeologist.... Very rarely do they actually prevent a crime but they will show up when all the dust settles and document what occurred.

Like the saying goes police are only minutes away when seconds matter. And why do you carry a gun? Because the cop is extremely difficult to fit into your holster.

 

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