Investigating the Jan 6 th Uprising.

What was the Eastman plan exactly? No, it is legitimate to protest, it is not to break in, trash the place and assault the police, hence why they should be prosecuted.

 

Really?? OK... i won't try and paraphrase it, but it has the sentence "Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html

 

So a legal challenge to the result? Ok.

 

THAT's your takeaway??

For God's Sake, the Congressional Counting day is NOT a legal challenge to the result.... It's a political challenge...

The legal stuff was all done by 12/1 or so...

Try again... read slower... comprehend the import of these 7 words....

"Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected."

Now imagine if it said "Harris then gavels President Biden as re-elected", if that helps

 

Riot on Capitol Hill to pressure the VP to stop him from certifying the vote is surely within your definition of a peaceful transfer of power... and a legal process.

They don't want to overthrow the government.

 

It's because there are 2 topics that have been off limits for discussion on social media since Nov, 2020: 1) Election integrity, 2)Covid/vaccines. And we know from experience in other countries, aka Tiananmen Square discussion while posting in China, that if social media companies have dictated a certain topic to be totally censored, it's because someone in that government told them to.

Told people back then, your censorship will backfire. You must allow the discussion, and use logic and truth to win it.

 

But it wasn't to be a riot, "peacefully and patriotically make your voice heard".
I would argue yes they do, by using violence to influence its' policy.

 

Discussion is one thing. Lies are another

"Election Integrity" is a huge red herring to distract from Trumps record, and what HE did. We have now had over 18 months since the election, and yet NOTHING was found, NOT one piece of evidence found to support even one claim of systemic voter fraud. Yet here we are 18 months later and the right is still pushing the big lie. Now that we have the J6 commission, we are getting the real story of what went on behind closed doors on the right and we are finding out that they KNEW this was a lie, yet the kept pushing it to sow doubt in the process so the could use it to divide the country for political gain, and it was successful.

Nobody is suppressing the right, they are stopping the lies. Thats the fact that righties refuse to accept. We know have the J6 commission proving these lies, ans showing that the people pushing these lies KNEW they were lies, and yet the right in this country is stil cluthing those Trump pearls.

I honestly believe that if Trump does get re-elected, that the this great experiment we call America will not exists as it does today, anymore

 

Yeah, I think it pretty clear that Trump honestly believed the election was stolen. I've seen no evidence to support his belief but I totally support his right to believe this and present his argument. I don't believe we need this prime-time Democrat infomercial to try and argue against what he believes.

 

Another clear example of his dementia then...

I don't support dementia sufferers in our elections process... it's bad for business...

BTW, what's his argument? Saying the same debunked **** over and over again is really not an argument.... it's real life Raymond Babbitt...

 

I dont think these are about Trump as much as most think. I think this is more about those that enabled the lie, and more importantly, what they tried to do with those lies and how they tried to subvert our democracy to try to overturn a free and fair election

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Doesn't matter to me. I support DT's right to argue his belief and even to be bull-headed about it as Barr suggested. The only reason it matters to the Dems on the committee is they think it is some kind of argument to win votes in the next election. I think it comes across as petty and counterproductive and don't believe it will help them politically.

 

Yeah I think Dems would benefit if Trump ran again. I get the impression they are hoping to use this to smear the GOP but I don't believe it is working.

 

I mean, have you SEEN the witness list so far? It's mostly Republicans (Stepien, Barr, Miller, Ken and Barbie Kusher, Fox news vote guy, the DOJ guys eventually)...

It comes across as T**** ignored everybody in his orbit, and his base thought that was the way to go... Says as much about them as it does about him (Dumb and Dumberer comes to mind)..

I won't apologize for the party of Democracy (and 2 actual live Republicans) trying to have deserved political accountability against people with no morals or shame... This will ring with many of the same people who gave Old Joe Biden a 7M vote win in 2020...

 

Yep, so? I agree with Barr that Trump is bull-headed and wasn't interested in facts that ran counter to what he wanted to be true. The Dems want to run against Trump's personality as opposed to running on their policies. That is why they are backing DT candidates in the primaries so they can run against Trump in the general. To make this successful they need to remind people of Trump's personality and sully his reputation as much as possible. These "hearings" are nothing but politics.

"Democratic groups are buying ads touting some of the most extreme pro-Trump candidates in Republican primaries around the country — meddling in GOP contests to set up more favorable matchups in November."

Democrats play with fire by meddling in GOP primaries (axios.com)

 

Sorry, your post is over for me with that BS line, even if you may make some sense with the primary deflection..

Can't overlook your lack of caring about this country, be you American or other...

 

Tomorrow's Hearing Schedule

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Much of presentation on Thursday will be led by Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., aides said. In-person testimony will be given by Greg Jacobs, who served as Pence’s chief counsel, and J. Michael Luttig, a former federal judge who advised Pence in the lead-up to Jan. 6. As with previous hearings, videotaped testimony from other witnesses will also feature prominently.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/thursday...pence-to-overturn-the-election-220102077.html

Obviously, we are going to hear what most of us already know... The Eastman plan was illegal, but the WH went through with as much of it as they could, before Pence put the stop sign up.

Hmm... BTW MAGA's, that 2 more Republicans testifying to that effect... Or RINO's, as I believe you call anybody who doesn't take the knee.....

 

Yep, it's beyond clear that white privilege doesn't exist. /smdh

 

If I believed these hearings did anything to benefit our nation then I would say you had a point. I can only see them being used to silence unpopular speech and push a political narrative.

The Dems want to run on 1-6 and abortion. The GOPs want to run on the economy, inflation, the border, law and order. I don't think the general populace places 1-6 very high on it's list of priorities. I think many will see this as the Dems focusing on things of little importance in their lives. I think the GOPs are going to win this argument.

 

We shall see, but I'll call anybody clueless who doesn't have 1/6 in their top 2 of priorities clueless.... to their face... and actually have...

Of course, by 1/6, I don't just mean the riot, I mean the full plot to overthrow our election. I can always tell the true MAGAs by those who still think the 1/6 committee was formed because of what happened exclusively on 1/6...

Also, I'm a single issue voter, so that makes it a lot easier for me...

 

Yeah, I've been saying for months that T****'s mental state was going to end up being his best defense on his efforts to overturn the election. Bill Barr just handed him the greatest gift he possibly could....

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/15/detached-from-reality-trump-jan-6-00039641

Don't let ANYBODY fool you that Barr isn't working to keep this nut relevant, to this day

 

Watching today's hearing on the Pence part of the plan... a few takeaways.

This guy Luttig may be a conservative constitutional scholar, but he makes Bob Mueller look like Robin Williams on coke when it comes to testifying.

This guy Jacob is much more interesting and a more key component of what went on.

The first hour was really pointless, because EVERYBODY except a select few seditionists knew Pence had no real role on 1/6.

FFS, even Dan Quayle knew that....

I want to hear Jacob (and Short) talk about the endless campaign to get Pence to violate the Constitution..

 

Jacob is a great freaking witness... he'll clearly be one of the prime witnesses in the criminal trial of John Eastman for sedition...

Ironic he's very conservative...

 

Wow... I'm not sure I knew that Eastman was STILL pushing for Pence to send the election back to the states AFTER the riot, before Pence retook the floor for the count.

 

We take a brief break from the 1/6 hearings on sedition to bring you this humorous take from an obvious moron in Congress....

Enjoy!!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/flor...-tweet-cnn-capitol_n_62abcb2ce4b0cdccbe5b5f8e