Should Trump go to Prison?

Good article (from MSN no less). Teflon Don has nothing on the Biden crime family. In fact he probably would have avoided jail time if he consulted with Joe.

 

You know these are all accusations coming from Republicans trump hired, right? LOL!!!

You people really need to get a clue. None of this is coming from Democrats. It is ALL coming from Republicans.

 

He told them to march "peacefully and patriotically" and "make their voices heard". Trump never said anything about hanging Mike Pence, no one has ever claimed that, not even folks who said he grabbed the wheel of the limousine. Wishful thinking on your part.

 

You people crack me up. The committee is getting first-hand testimony from Republicans who were there.

But you go right ahead with your crackpot sources. The truth will come out.

 

I am leaning more toward the idea that he will somehow use his super-duper Cracker Jack box spinner to sell his <whatever you want to call them - all my choices are bannable> the idea that he was somehow victimized by Pence's "dereliction of duty". If any of these <whatever the hell> had even a scant understanding of the law, they wouldn't have landed their dumbasses in prison acting on a total lie.

The beauty of this particular dumbass is that he thinks he's smart. Intelligent people don't brag about it and they aren't threatened by other intelligent people in the vicinity. In this sense, he's painted himself in a corner because anyone in his "circle" is just as stupid, worthless and a traitor so there can't be any other play than "lie, deny and attack". And, he's good at reading his target audience like most con men. None of them check the box for firing synapses. Have you ever heard the words "circle j*rk"? This is that. 24/7/365.

 

Manage your expectations better, man. It's less painful that way. Trust me.

Rob's posting history shows that EVERY shoot is a clean shoot for police officers. He has no interests in our laws and seemingly nothing close to being reasonable.

The issue isn't that they don't know that timeline. It's that they don't care about that timeline. I have complex-PTSD and I can't get those images out of my head. I don't have the impression that this has had ANY impact on them at all.



Pause a minute and think on that. These people were trapped inside a building fully aware that their own POTUS would not lift a damn finger to get them help. I have been in many life-and-death situations and I'm trained with firearms and hand-to-hand combat. These people's roles are strictly white color and they knew their own damn POTUS would not pick up his phone.

Cops expect to confront the dregs of society when they go to their jobs. We all hope to make it back home but know that may not happen. Nobody with a soul could excuse what our own POTUS did NOT do for those police officers or our elected officials. Some of these people are still in trauma counseling. As much as I don't like politicians, nobody deserves to be put in this position just for doing their job.

There is no reason on Earth that anyone in this country still stands with him. This is way out of bounds for dirty politics. I have no doubt that any other person complicit in something like this would be in prison or exiled already. This is <censoring myself> unconsciousable. It's <censoring myself> evil.

 

No, YOU made the assertion, I'm asking you for evidence and you're failing to provide it. Now I can prove that Trump told his supporters to "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard", trying to influence the representatives in the same way the anti-Kavanaugh supporters did during his confirmation hearings;

Donald Trump to supporters - march "Peacefully & Patriotically". How is this inciting insurrection! - YouTube

Now you provide me with evidence he ever told anyone to "Hang Mike Pence"?

 

Stop talking BS. It is public information. Get your nose out of the crackpot soup and smell the air again.

Have you watched the sworn testimony? Of course not.

 

Tomorrow they will be providing sworn testimony or other evidence linking the proud boys an or other insurrectionist organizations to trump's circle.

Apparently some of the proud boys have agreed to testify.

Among other things, they will testify that came prepared with bombs.

 

His username is a misnomer. Fortunately, the "reasonable" as applied to the law is "What would a reasonable person do in X situation?" is not whatever the hell way he is trying to use it.

You and I know that this is SPECIFICALLY why Sidney Powell said under oath that she lied about widespread election fraud. She said "No reasonable person would believe my election lies.".

And, it's the exact same now. No reasonable person would have tweeted for those nutjobs to come to the Capitol.
No reasonable person would have knowingly told an outright lie to incite that mob to hunt down his own VP.
No reasonable person would sit idly by ignoring what that mob did to those police officers.
No reasonable person would sit idly by while his own lawmakers were terrified and pleading for his help.
No reasonable person would say that Pence deserved to be hanged.
No reasonable person would keep repeating the same damn lie to cause destruction and chaos constantly.
No reasonable person would lie and steal from his own supporters' bank accounts.
No reasonable person would get anywhere near extremist groups.
No reasonable person would have been able to not say one damn word about those Capitol police officers and our still traumatized lawmakers.
No reasonable person would not have a <censoring myself> ounce of remorse for what he did.

Check my posting history. I called "dereliction of duty" the day it happened and many, many times since then. How could anybody with a soul sit there knowing those people would eventually get inside that building and clearly knew they were armed and refused to call them off for hours. That's not anything but an evil monster.

It's total BS for them to say that he did nothing wrong.

 

No, habeas corpus! I have and watched it and it is nothing so far, what did YOU see?

Except that Trump didn't do ANY of these things? Your TDS is incredible.

 

WHAT could Trump have done to get them help??? NOTHING. Trump was not in charge of their security and protection. He had NOTHING to do with their security or protection. He has no authority to do anything as far as domestic law enforcement or at the Capitol. He is Commander in Chief of the military not the DC or Capitol Police forces. Any assistance from the state and DC NG can ONLY come by request of a governor, the Mayor of DC or Capitol Police after the Capitol leadership has approved. The Capitol leadership and Mayor of DC were in charge of security and protection. Why do you keep fallaciously asserting Trump was supposed to do something?

So why would those people have been think it was Trump instead of wondering why Pelosi and the Capitol Police would not lift a damn finger to get them help?

 

OK. Let's start with your idea that he may have been stunned. Are you seriously saying that someone that is a deer stuck in the headlights for over three hours is somebody that should lead a country?

Yes, that's true. However, you left out a key factor.

ONLY ONE PERSON had the duty to engage back-up for the Capitol police officers and he chose not to do it. Choosing to do nothing IS a choice.

I would agree with you had this exact same event happened anywhere else for any other reasons. That's simply not the case for this specific riot.

As the POTUS of our country, he is responsible for what happens on his watch. It's neither hypocritical or extreme to hold him accountable for his actions and inactions or are you suggesting he, specifically, should be above the laws of the land he represented?

 

Trump didn't do any of the things on my list? No one? Are you sure about that?

 

All he had to do was call off the mob he assembled to attack the capitol.

And his own people said so, including his own son.

 

Many people had a duty to back things up that day, many failed and Trump was no different. How could it happen anywhere else, only one Capitol? No one is above the law, Trump simply didn't break any.

Yep, not one

 

Not very reasonable, Rob.

Who were these other people with that duty, Rob? I'm very curious.

 

He did twice in the first hour and then again a hour later after telling them in the first place to go their peacefully. Obviously the rioters were NOT listening to him. And HAD he had been in charge and was ordering them what to do and directing the riot and HAD those in the riot had even been listening and looking at their phones then you and the left and Dems and MSM would be going "SEE he WAS in charge they were following HIS ORDERS" and then want him charged with a crime.

The fact remains it should never have happened in the first place and as the Chief of the Capitol Hill Police stated had they had the proper security in place the breech wouldn't have happened and it wouldn't have then snowballed into a full riot. But THAT is not being investigated in these hearings is it.

 

Well that wasn't Trump so who are you talking about? Hint: I think at least one was a she. Who choose not to have the additional security there? How delayed making the request that day?

 

Oh, God---that tired old crap again.

 

Nothing "crap" about the facts. Feel free to try and refute them.

 

Compared to all the treacherous, treasonous, unconstitutional, corrupt, and just plain evil the Demotwats have been doing since 1993, Trump has done nothing compared to them!

And if the Dementocraps can get away with raping, torturing, stealing from taxpayers, lying, and committing heinously treasonous acts against our laws and our country........and get away with it..........then Trump has absolutely nothing to ever worry about.

 

Would Trump going to jail make you feel better about your shrinking earning potential, your shrinking purchasing power, your inhabit to attend a public showing of a movie, buying quality food, or otherwise have any impact on your life other than so modicum of hate driven retribution? I see you make allegations, and yet, to date, indictments were never forthcoming. Even Democrats couldn't charge the president, the DOJ certainly hasn't. And yet, this issue continues to consume you? Why? It seems churlish, puerile even.

J6 is a show trial. will you ever agree to that? When a defendant cannot cross examine, or call their own witnesses, etc, isn't it treasonous for democrats to conduct these proceedings in a manner that so illicit the old Soviet, or China? It sure seems you want Trump to be in prison. But then, isn't that what petty dictators around the world do to those who they fear or don' like?

Isn't this a call for insurrection by the congress to inflict this BS on the nation in an attempt to keep Trump from being able to run again? Just be honest. Admit what you're really afraid of. Do you realize that even now, Trump would beat Biden in a general ballot by over 5 points? That tells me folks don't desire the same retribution you want, and of course, that says a lot....

 

The heads of security for the capitol? The head of the capitol police? The Sergeant at Arms for the building?