Russian Defense lines collapsing in Donetsk Oblast.

Since I am watching football ( real football- American) hope Moskhaili fumble badly.

 

They don't want to fight.


Angry Russians rebel after Putin drafts more people in battle for Ukraine
By Sarah Cahlan, Samuel Oakford, Imogen Piper, Mary Ilyushina, Ruby Mellen and Natalia Abbakumova

 

Yes but a rebellion needs hit critical mass for a collapse to occur. A broad range of the Russian population Ned’s to have skin in Putin’s game. The Russians are not returning many of their dead except for field grade officers.
More bodies and severely injured Russians need to start returning to their wives and parents. Support for Putin will start dropping.

 

Have you noticed that there was a very recent referendum election in the eastern provinces of Ukraine passed which would align those eastern provinces with Russia? Why don't you believe in democracy in the eastern provinces of Ukraine who want to be with Russia?

 

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  After setback for Russia, Ukraine isn't letting up

 

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Illegal annexation of territory by Russia doesn't halt Ukraine forces

 

The so called referendum was staged, controlled, and the so called votes were “counted” by the Moskhailiy. That so called referendum is not and can never be democratic. Why you may ask. Simple! The Moskhailshina or Russia if you insist is not a democracy. Since as I said above the so called referendum was staged and controlled by Russia a non democracy the so the so called referendum cannot be democratic. The results of this sham were”know” in the Kremlin long before it was staged.

 

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Petraeus, McMaster say Russian army in Ukraine may collapse

 

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Petraeus predicts US would lead NATO response to ‘take out’ Russian forces if Putin uses nuclear weapon

 

Ukraine Conflict Updates

Key Takeaways

• Ukrainian forces liberated Lyman and are likely clearing the settlement as of October 1.
• Russia is likely setting conditions to assume legal responsibility for the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP).
• Ukrainian troops are continuing to conduct counteroffensive operations in Kherson Oblast and setting conditions for future advances.
• Russian forces conducted ground attacks in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka areas of Donetsk Oblast.
• Russian forces continued routine strikes against Ukrainian rear areas in the south.
• Russian military leadership is continuing to compromise the future reconstitution of the force by prioritizing the immediate mobilization of as many bodies as possible for ongoing fighting in Ukraine.
• Russian mobilization authorities continue to carry out discriminatory mobilization practices. . . .

Ukrainian forces liberated Lyman on October 1. The Russian Ministry of Defense and various Russian milbloggers confirmed that Russian troops withdrew from Lyman to “more advantageous lines,” and geolocated social media footage shows Ukrainian troops in various parts of Lyman throughout the day on October 1.[10] Russian sources indicated that the BARS-13 detachment that was holding the Russian defensive line in Drobysheve, just northwest of Lyman, withdrew to Kreminna (about 25km east of Lyman).[11] Details about Ukrainian advances remain unclear, however. Several Russian sources reported that Ukrainian troops blew up a bridge on the eastern outskirts of Kirove, 10km northeast of Lyman.[12] However, the footage is not corroborated by social media geolocation communities. The dynamic nature of ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in this area is likely generating confusing and contradictory reporting. Russian sources also discussed Ukrainian attacks north of Lyman around Torske, Terny, and Yampilske, suggesting that Ukrainian troops are continuing efforts to take settlements north of Lyman as well.[13] ISW will continue to monitor developments around Lyman and provide updates on control of terrain as they become corroborated. . . . .

Ukrainian military officials reiterated on October 1 that Ukrainian troops are continuing to conduct counter-offensive operations in Kherson Oblast and setting conditions for future advances in various areas along the frontline.[14] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command noted that Russian forces are drawing up reserves and regrouping in the face of constant Ukrainian actions in southern Ukraine.[15] Ukrainian officials additionally stated that Ukrainian forces are continuing an interdiction campaign to target Russian concentration areas in Kherson Oblast.[16] . . . .

 

That supports what I've been thinking. If Russia sets off a nuke everything Russian on Ukranian territory or in Ukranian waters becomes a target. Give NATO a couple of weeks and they will dismantle Russian forces. Ukraine will be able to mop up.

 

The Russians are turning on each other.


Zelensky hails advances as open recriminations intensify in Russian media

 

Yes, we all saw the fake manufactured fictional referendum. No, no one believes the sham fictional results made up by Putin.

 

Because, all the actual citizens in those eastern provinces didn't get to vote. 70% of the population fled west so the only people voting were seperatists and Russian people that had invaded those regions. That is not an actual vote, but a fake sham vote. Just about everyone knows this, but evidently not everyone here.

 

Russian Army at 'Breaking Point' After Putin's Lyman Defeat: Lt. General

 

Best quote from that article:

Putin's failed operation will be his undoing.

 

Ukraine Conflict Updates

Key inflections in ongoing military operations on October 2:

• Ukrainian forces continued to liberate settlements east and northeast of Lyman and have liberated Torske in Donetsk Oblast. Russian sources claimed that Russian forces withdrew from their positions northeast of Lyman, likely to positions around Kreminna and along the R66 Svatove-Kreminna highway.[24]
• Ukrainian forces continued to advance on settlements east of Kupyansk and liberated Kisharivka in Kharkiv Oblast.[25]
• Russian forces continued to launch unsuccessful assaults around Bakhmut, Vyimka, and Avdiivka.[26]
• Ukrainian forces resumed counteroffensives in northern Kherson Oblast and have secured positions in Zolota Balka and Khreshchenivka. Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces also liberated Shevchekivka and Lyubymivka, pushing Russian forces to new defensive positions around Mykailivka.[27]
• Russian forces continued to target Kryvyi Rih and Mykolaiv Oblast with Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones.[28]
• Russian State Duma MPs withdrew a law that would have given mobilized men a one-time payment of 300,000 rubles (about $4,980) and other benefits, without providing a reason for their decision.[29] Ukrainian military officials stated that Russian forces are forming a motorized rifle division with mobilized men from Crimea, Krasnodar Krai, and the Republic of Adygea.[30]
• Russian President Vladimir Putin submitted a draft law to the State Duma on admitting the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, and Zaporizhia and Kherson Oblasts, to the Russian Federation.[31] . . .

This campaign assessment special edition focuses on dramatic changes in the Russian information space following the Russian defeat around Lyman and in Kharkiv Oblast and amid the failures of Russia’s partial mobilization. Ukrainian forces made continued gains around Lyman, Donetsk Oblast, and have broken through Russian defensive positions in northeastern Kherson Oblast. Those developments are summarized briefly and will be covered in more detail tomorrow when more confirmation is available.

The Russian defeat in Kharkiv Oblast and Lyman, combined with the Kremlin’s failure to conduct partial mobilization effectively and fairly are fundamentally changing the Russian information space. Kremlin-sponsored media and Russian milbloggers – a prominent Telegram community composed of Russian war correspondents, former proxy officials, and nationalists – are grieving the loss of Lyman while simultaneously criticizing the bureaucratic failures of the partial mobilization.[1] Kremlin sources and milbloggers are attributing the defeat around Lyman and Kharkiv Oblast to Russian military failures to properly supply and reinforce Russian forces in northern Donbas and complaining about the lack of transparency regarding the progress of the war.[2]

Some guests on heavily-edited Kremlin television programs that aired on October 1 even criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decision to annex four Ukrainian oblasts before securing their administrative borders or even the frontline, expressing doubts about Russia’s ability ever to occupy the entirety of these territories.[3] Kremlin propagandists no longer conceal their disappointment in the conduct of the partial mobilization, frequently discussing the illegal mobilization of some men and noting issues such as alcoholism among newly mobilized forces.[4] Some speaking on live television have expressed the concern that mobilization will not generate the force necessary to regain the initiative on the battlefield, given the poor quality of Russian reserves.[5]

The Russian information space has significantly deviated from the narratives preferred by the Kremlin and the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) that things are generally under control. The current onslaught of criticism and reporting of operational military details by the Kremlin’s propagandists has come to resemble the milblogger discourse over this past week. The Kremlin narrative had focused on general statements of progress and avoided detailed discussions of current military operations. The Kremlin had never openly recognized a major failure in the war prior to its devastating loss in Kharkiv Oblast, which prompted the partial reserve mobilization.[6] . . .

 

And in their faces.

 

Ukraine Reclaims Full Control of Logistics Hub from Russia. Ukrainian forces announced that they had retaken the eastern city of Lyman on Saturday. Russia’s defense ministry confirmed that Russian troops withdrew from the city to escape encirclement. Russian forces had used Lyman as a key logistics and transport hub for the northern Donetsk region. Its capture by Kyiv marks Moscow’s latest major setback in eastern Ukraine. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the Ukrainian progress shows Kyiv’s potential in countering Russia. Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of Russia’s Chechnya region, urged drastic measures in response, including the declaration of martial law in border areas and the “use of low-yield nuclear weapons.” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov later said Kadyrov had the right to express his opinion, but that Moscow favors a “balanced approach” on the issue of using nuclear weapons. Associated Press Reuters Washington Post

 

So much for you believing in democracy, yes?

 

Do you think it's democratic to ask less than half of the residents of a region whether they want to join Russia, fake a bunch ballots anyway to make it look like over 90% are in support, and declare that a legitimate result?

 

Oh, we believe in Democracy. We don't believe in fictional sham results made up months before in Moscow.

 

Are you really sure there were Russian Defense lines?
My impression is that Russians went to Ukraine like they wanted to enjoy a picnic.
Unfortunately Ukrainians weren't in agreement about this ...

 

The Russians' "referendum" wasn't "democracy".