How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

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  1. fmw

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    Sure. Give me a pubic admission.
     
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    Frank: I'm going to end Bob's fence.
    *Bob's fence gets destroyed*
    Me: Looks like Frank destroyed Bob's fence.
    Durandal: That's a conspiracy theory! There are any number of ways to end a fence without destroying it! I bet Bob destroyed his own fence to make Frank look bad! I mean, what else was he going to do? Just sit there and let his fence rot?
    Me: :eyepopping:
     
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    I already did. Biden publicly stated his intention to end the pipeline. That is evidence. To argue otherwise is just ludicrous.
     
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    There could be video of Biden planting the explosive himself and Durandal would still deny it... lol
     
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    Did he say he would sabotage it? End is a pretty meaningless term when the issue is sabotage. Help me out. I believe nothing Biden says. Perhaps you have a public admission from someone that actually sabotaged the pipeline? We know it wasn't Biden.
     
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    Really dude? He said he would "take it out". One of the few times he wasn't lying.
     
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    Old article. Worthwhile reading for anyone whose programming allows them to do:

    Suspicions Turn to Russia as Investigation Into Pipeline Blast Begins
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    Gas roils the surface off Bornholm from the leak from Nord Stream 2 (Danish Defence Command)
    Published Sep 28, 2022 8:34 PM by The Maritime Executive

    ...

    Even intact, however, none of the lines were moving gas. For political reasons related to the invasion of Ukraine, all four Nord Stream pipelines were already shut down before the blasts, and the odds of ever realizing their full potential were in serious decline. In the near term, the damage will not likely affect energy flows.

    The partial destruction of $20 billion worth of capital investment appears to be a downside for the Kremlin, but Western political leaders and analysts have pointed to possible benefits for Russia if it were willing to write off Nord Stream. As a demonstration of capability and will, an attack on the pipelines could be viewed as a powerful and carefully-timed threat to European energy security - and Western leaders are responding accordingly. Norway has increased military presence and patrol operations at its offshore oil and gas infrastructure, and in a statement Wednesday, top EU foreign policy official Josep Borrell warned that "any deliberate disruption of European energy infrastructure is utterly unacceptable and will be met with a robust and united response.”

    Defense analysts and insiders have noted that Russia is among the limited number of nations with the capability to pull off an attack of this scale at a well-monitored, strategic location in Northern Europe.

    “Only Russia can really be considered for this, especially since it stands to gain the most from this act of sabotage," said Gerhard Schindler, the ex-head of Germany's top spy agency, in an interview with Welt. “An unnoticed, conspiratorial damage to pipelines at a depth of 80 meters in the Baltic Sea requires sophisticated technical and organizational capabilities that clearly point to a state actor."

    ... https://maritime-executive.com/edit...a-as-investigation-into-pipeline-blast-begins
     
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    Uh huh....uh huh.

    Prove it.
     
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    Ohhh...how do you know Biden wasn't lying ...Bill.

    Did he send you a text saying so?
     
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    I read the entire piece. No one could have made this story up. And I guess we all knew that the "Russia blew up their own pipeline" story didn't make any sense, right? No one wants to talk about this, either party, because it may spell our doom.
     
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    "No one could have made this story up." -- Why not? I don't see how someone with a modicum of knowledge in this area couldn't do just that. Tom Clancy was a master at it.

    "And I guess we all knew that the "Russia blew up their own pipeline" story didn't make any sense, right?" -- Another argument from incredulity. If you don't know what that is, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
     
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    This is the same Nation that invaded Iraq, our reputation means nothing to us.
     
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    Well obviously we did it. Was that ever really in question?
     
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    How can the fact, that US invaded Iraq can be a proof or argument, that US secretly blow up 3 of 4 pipes, who they disabled anyway just using sanctions? What's the point here? :D
     
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    The point is Bush/Cheney wanted to play war somewhere and did.
    For a certain mindset, “what’s the sense of wielding power if you don’t use it!?”
    Some Presidents serve, some want to rule. YMMV
     
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    Hi, Ethereal.

    I've spent a lot of time carefully debunking nonsense which has been posted on this and other threads. The same 'talking points' that I've debunked continue to show up. It's not worth the effort, and so I've stopped doing it.

    When I see posted statements which are unsupported by evidence and which fit the meaning of conspiracy theory, I don't bother to debunk them, either. I simply label them for what they are and move on.

    Regards, best wishes to you and yours.
     
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    Brow-beating is not an argument.
     
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    Ignorance is a prison you have chosen.
     
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    Instead of citing a fiction piece by the "legendary" apologist for Putin and Assad, why don't the ruZZians offer some evidence from what cuck Mike Lee calls their "superlative surveillance"?
     
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    Why don't you just prove them wrong...
     
  22. Durandal

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    They have the burden of proof and they aren't providing any.
     
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    They do not need proof.... "reasonable suspicion" is all that is need to start an investigation...... it is the DOJ's job... when the corrupt DOJ does their investigation into it, they will produce any proof and evidence needed for the prosecutors to look at... You, Seymour Hersh. or I do not do investigations... but if there is an investigation that proves them wrong, please, let's see it..
     
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    *L*

    There is no reasonable suspicion based on a work of fiction.
     
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    Sorry mate .. Hiding out in tree-tops, shouting out rude names is not an argument and does not change "how america took out the nord-stream" .. get back on the page Jack.
     

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