Gunman killed neighbors, child with AR-15-style rifle, sheriff says

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  1. dharbert

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    Cut and Shoot, Texas. Appropriate....
     
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    Private sales do not "avoid" the federal background check, because there is no federal background check for private sales.
    You cannot avoid a requirement that does not exist.
    A loophole is a legal way to avoid a legal requirement; if there is no legal requirement, there is no loophole.
    Quite possibly.
     
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  3. Turtledude

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    there are some key words that tell me when I am dealing with a dishonest gun banner

    1) gun show loophole (proves they don't understand the law nor the commerce clause jurisdictional issue)

    2 Weapons of mass destruction or mass killing machines-demonstrates an appeal to low information emotobabblers and doesn't understand how guns work

    3) guns only purpose is to kill people-same as #2
     
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    If you disagree with a progressive on any subject you are a Trump guy. It’s just the way it is! :)
     
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    Are you under the delusion that PRIVATE SALES won’t stop until universal background checks are mandatory for the transfer of any firearm ?

    If a gun sold in a private sale shows up at a crime scene, the second person investigated needs to be the seller .
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    so you think UBGC will stop private sales. and since 99% of the firearms owned in the USA are NOT REGISTERED, how is your wet dream going to take place? EVEN OBAMA's DOJ (yes I was in that for all of his first term and some of his second term) admitted that UBGC cannot be enforced without almost complete registration
     
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    How many people think the purpose of a universal background check is to stop private sales PERIOD as @fullmetaljack has claimed?
     
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  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    He got back in because the feds didn't do their jobs and prosecute him for his felonies.

    https://sgp.fas.org/crs/homesec/IF11410.pdf
    "Illegal Reentry: 8 U.S.C. § 1326 makes it a felony for an alien previously denied admission or removed from the United States (or who departed the country while an order of removal was outstanding) to enter, attempt to enter, or be found in the United States without prior authorization."
     
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    Y'all still pushing that "military grade" myth?...lol

    Veterans laugh everytime y'all say that.
     
  10. TOG 6

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    Conclusion:
    Ban guns!!!!
     
  11. Nwolfe35

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    Two separate issues.

    1. Stop the revolving door of deportation and return
    2. Stop people from getting possession of weapons like these.
     
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    lol, I’ll remind you whenever you make another train wreck of a thread that you think what is written in the law makes no difference. I’d go on but you’re clearly embarrassed.
     
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    These weapons are not full automatic thus not "military grade"
    They are lethal enough that there is no reason for civilians to have them.
     
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    "All bearable arms".
    The AR15, et all, stand under this umbrella.
     
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    "All bearable arms".
    The AR15, et all, stand under this umbrella.
     
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    So you threaten me with taking me out of context. Of course you would! It's the only recourse for lower quality posters who have no capacity to make REAL arguments.
     
  17. Buri

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    your words, your illogical thought process. Blaming others for the problems you create gets pretty old. What’s even funnier is you just posted a low quality thread taking tucker out of context.

    maybe you should leave thread creation to others, since yours turn out like a like a cape in your parachute bag.
     
  18. Reality

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    1) As you're well aware, do too much in private sale and you're subject to the requirement.
    2) If its not a private sale, its an ffl sale. If its an ffl sale you have to do the bullshit, which as we've discussed in another post isn't all that hard to circumvent if you're a shitbird.
    3) That means its a loophole, an intentional opening in a law for the benefit of the persons protected by the law IE normal citizens.
    4) There is nothing wrong with a loophole.
    5) Pretending there is allows the grabbers to set the narrative. Allowing your opponent in rhetoric to set the narrative is a losing proposition.
    6) Ergo, the so what.
     
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    Kinda odd really. That's a big aryan brotherhood locale
     
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    Nothing wrong with a loophole, first off. Second, you're being rather imprecise with language. It's not a gun show loophole, as private sales can occur ANYWHERE in the state. At ANY time. Booga booga booga
     
  21. fullmetaljack

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    Great, then proceed with universal firearm registration.
     
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    I don't believe that's the case.
    The federal NICS requirement is for people who have an FFL and are selling a gun owned by their business.
    An FFL holder, or anyone else, selling a privately held gun - a gun not owned by his business - does not need to run a BGC under federal law.
    The actual term is non-liquet -- a situation where there is no applicable law.
    Similar, but not the same.
    Thus, the resistance to the term.
     
  23. Buri

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    You’re welcome to register anything you like. No one else would do that on purpose.
     
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    "No."
    - USSC
     
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    There's no law that says one can't register they guns but to demand that others do? This reminds of the lib's arguments that the rich need to pay much more in taxes. Nothing forbids the libs from writing some fat checks and mailing them to Uncle Sam. Less gun registration wouldn't mean less crime just like more money wouldn't make a better country.
     
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