Megyn Kelly slams non-binary ‘Transformers’ character who goes by ‘they/them’: ‘This is disgusting’

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  1. Alwayssa

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    LOL, and nothing in the article insinuates that it is being forced on children in schools or elsewhere. What it did do was allow the treatments to be conducted as long as the parents were fully involved and informed with the child if they so choose that treatment option. Again, patient-physician privilege which the right wants to destroy because the GOP state knows what is best for your child sort of thing. We call that communism around here folks.
     
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    It's not "treatment"..... It's child abuse perpetuated by mentally ill adult who abuse children psychologically and physically
     
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    It is a medical treatment. I think the protocols need to be uniform in which the gender affirmation surgery as the last resort, but I also think there should be years of therapy to get at the root cause of it too. But it is not child abuse. That is the lie that the right wants to tell thinking it is being forced on them. No it is not. It is a decision between a parent, their child if a minor, and the physician for what is best for the patient.

    Of course, if you think that is child abuse, then so is circumcision, male circumcision that is. That is quite literally abusing the body, is it not using your own criteria as such?
     
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    Circumcision actually has a valid medical reason based on the fact that it's more sanitary but no I don't really agree with that either.

    This so-called treatment you are discussing as a result of the brave New world liberal progressive mentality

    What they need is therapy from a rational adult to sit down confused children and explain to them the ways of reality.

    And they're not going to get that as long as people like you keep pretending that this is some sort of valid medical treatment.

    You see how easy this is? Screenshot_20230508-005340.png
     
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    And you are free to hold that superstitious view. I'll stick with the medical professionals involved and continue rejecting your authoritarianism.
     
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    Good for you. You are free to hold whatever misguided notions you feel like holding
     
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    Unlike the authoritarian right, I'm not trying to force my views on others. I'll stick with liberty and the medical professionals. You can keep promoting ideological authoritarianism. At least we've clarified where both of us stand.
     
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    It is still mutalitng the body. But so does gender affirmation therapy has some medical benefits as well if that person truly, and that's the key, wants the sex change operation. But that is why I think years of psychological therapy should be done first, then hormone therapy, and then gender affirmation therapy as the final step in the process. But psychological therapy needs to make the determination and that takes time, a lot of time to ascertain such a diagnosis.

    But even therapy in some of the GOP bills is prohibited BTW in which no medical treatment should be allowed. This one is coming from Florida, a complete ban on anything doing with gender affirmation from psychological services to the actual surgery to anywhere in between.

    The other problem is the medical field. There are some medical practitioners who use their services pretty much like Starbucks. DeVita is one such example. Certain orthopedic surgeries, eye surgeries, LASIK for instance, were such a service. So, I am not talking about that. I want them to get the true help they need without government interference, a conservative concept, that is the best option for patient-physician. That's it.
     
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    Such a paragon of virtue...
     
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    It's cute that you pretend your own position isn't virtue signalling. Meanwhile, I'm sorry you think that it takes some special "virtue" to just not be authoritarian. I disagree.
     
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    I'm not the one that supports mutilating children and thus physically and psychologically abusing them
     
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    Actually parents are not necessary to be involved as stated by the earlier article and I can provide government documents claiming it’s not necessary
     
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    I've never supported abuse or mutilation. But I understand why you need to make that **** up in order to support the psychologically abusive authoritarianism that you are advocating.
     
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    Oh the ****ing exaggeration drama, because forcing a someone to behave in a certain way is so loving.
     
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    Bullshit. It is called washing.
     
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    https://www.utah.gov/pmn/files/800139.pdf

    Another quote from the same article

    it is obvious that schools are intentionally building an environment that includes this lie that one can pick their sex.

    Even the Office Of Population Affairs has a document claiming that lower end surgery may be acceptable for some cases in adolescent trans individuals. Article posted below

    https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    it also claims that giving kids partially reversible drugs is a good idea. Which to me sounds like child abuse but they are Obviously conceding the need to allow this for children at a government level. Allowing it is in fact endorsing it and the beliefs that these surgeries somehow changes your sex.
     
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    So what? Really anyone bitching about it has serious issues they need to address.
     
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    Lol, it's cute that you want to pretend to know about or care about comics, but the two characters you are talking about are two completely different characters, and the "pudgy East Asian kid" is comics -accurate for Ms Marvel. You'd know this if you did your homework instead of just engaging in racial reactionary conservative virtue signalling. She actually idolizes the blonde Captain Marvel in the image above (an entirely separate character), both in the comic and in the show, and you guys hated her too, by the way. The white, blonde Captain Marvel shows up in the last episode of the series (sorry for the spoilers), and they will be in a series together soon, which your fellow reactionary righties are ALSO already wetting their britches over. Another epic fail.

    Miles Morales is also comics-accurate and isn't "replacing" Peter Parker and isn't new. Please stop making **** up about stuff you know nothing about.
     
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    Oh well my mistake..... I'm glad to know that you don't support this gender affirming care of small children.

    Part of this 'gender affirming care" can include double mastectomy and the mutilation of the genitals.

    But it's good to know that you don't support that sort of thing.

    Even though you said that you agree with the doctors that do
     
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    By replacing I mean there will be no more stories around Peter Parker Spider-Man and that the movies will pivot towards the Miles Morales Spider-Man much like they did with captain America I'm well aware of all the s*** that you just said.

    Like I know there is a separate character who's black who is from Krypton who has an "s" on his chest.

    I know that there's multiple different versions of Miss Marvel.

    I'm aware that there's multiple different versions of captain America and Spider-Man.

    The lineup of the movies having replaced most all of the straight white men is what's telling.
     
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    Ok. How is character representation “indoctrination”?
     
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    Oh ok — so feel free to explain how homosexuality exists in nature and it existed even when criminalized and not even spoken of, much less represented by book or movie characters?

    What is the message? That gay and trans people exist?

    Want to know what unnatural thing would vanish if it wasn’t allowed to be forced on young children? Take a guess.
     
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    Very little in life is binary

    I would watch it
     
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    The only thing abnormal is the bigotry.
     
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    Cool story.
     
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