Megyn Kelly slams non-binary ‘Transformers’ character who goes by ‘they/them’: ‘This is disgusting’

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    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    First, it should be noted that your reference is a religiously biased site. So right there it is suspect. But here you go:

    More than 2/3 who got some kind of surgery had a reduction in suicidal ideation. That's a significant amount of improvement. Also note that it referenced the surgeries desired, meaning that not all of them necessarily took the full SRS, but could have been limited to top surgery only, such as breast removal/addition.

    As you can see here, external sources of suicide have to be accounted for. These are some of the reasons suicide is so high among transgenders. It's not being transgender itself. Which also means that if surgery alone can have such a significant drop in suicide rates, image what managing to drop harassment and assault will do for dropping suicide rates.

    All the more reason to make sure the cause of suicide by a transgender is related to being transgender. Because only an idiot would think that there wasn't other factors that could cause suicide. Also your own article even makes that connection that there could be other reasons besides being transgender for those people to commit suicide. SO you can't exactly say that being transgender increases the odds of suicide and then claim that the denial of medical aid might not be the cause, but other causes outside the transgender issue.

    Oh and for those who want to talk about all those who detransitioned:

    Seems like detransitioning is a cause for suicide, at least by the logic being presented as to why transgenders should not transition in the first place. Nearly twice the amount of people who de-transitioned showed suicidal ideation than those who remained transitioned.

    So while the suicide rate of post transitioning transgenders might be higher than the general population average, they are still way lower than the rates among the pre transitioning or those in the beginning stages. Which means that transitioning works.
     
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    and most suicides result from bullying, not from having or not having the surgery, so there is that too
     
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    I'm going to be honest and say that I have yet to see a study that breaks it down into all the possible causes and their likelihood. We might find that the bullying cause is greater for post-op but less for pre-op.Unless you know of such a study?
     

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