Is the term “White privilege” discriminatory?

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Is the term “white privilege” prejudice?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    What parts specifically?
     
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    No, not what it means.

    What it means is there are certain advantages to being white. Having one aspect of you that is privileged doesn't actually mean you are fortunate or privileged overall, just in that particular aspect.

    How about a "non-woke" example to help you understand. I would argue there are different kinds of feminine and masculine privileges. The feminine privileges are that people are more likely to trust you, not fear you, and want to help you than if you were male. This makes it easier to get social support when you need it. Females are privileged in that regard, but other aspects of their overall life like being poor, disabled, black, lesbian, trans, foreign could make them overall not privileged even if they do have a certain amount of feminine privilege. Masculine privilege is more about being taken seriously, being more free to walk at night without fear, not having to deal with childbirth or the risk of it, things like that. So each gender enjoys advantages that the other lacks. Similarly, being white is a privilege because people want to associate with those like themselves, and whites are in the majority. Even without subconscious bias, being the majority ethnicity is a privilege.

    I think the people who frequently use the term are often arrogant and annoying, though. Maybe that's what you're picking up on.
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so the amount of money tiger woods makes is equal to the amount of money I make?
    because that's equality.
    So they're just better than you?
     
  4. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    I think you're confused on what I'm saying.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    So when you say equality you don't mean equality?
     
  6. Matt84

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    This is what you said.

    You want to hear about inequality? Tiger woods hit some stupid little ball with some stupid little bat and not get into it moronic little hole and be worth a couple hundred million dollars I have to work my ass off for a couple thousand in the same amount of time.

    You're not going to make the same as a professional athlete. The fewer there are of a certain profession the more they will be paid.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    don't tell me what I said I know make your point
    that's inequality. I don't know why you keep telling me this I know.

    You were talking about equality I was just pointing out to you that you accept and even support inequality.

    Thanks for proving my point
     
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    Unequal opportunity should never be supported. That was my original point. You're the one that started this "somebody taller than somebody" rhetoric.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    agreed we should make the effort to equalize opportunities but it never will be.
    Someone who's taller than someone else has greater opportunity.
     
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    Whites cannot be discriminated against - especially by colored people.
    How do you not know this?
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    I thought that was called black discrimination why the backward term "white privilege"? What not just call it what it is if you are claiming it somewhere.

    I've yet to figure out what privilege I ever had BECAUSE I was white, nothing was ever handed to me because I am white. Had my share of hard times and heavy loads in spite of being white I guess cause white people never have to work hard or struggle?
     
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    Nope it's the cons who do not believe in racial separation or discrimination and for equal protection under the law. It was the Populist Dems who fought for slavery and then Jim Crow and against civil rights and voting rights.
     
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    Anytime I hear someone using the words white privilege, I know that person is not to be taken seriously. It's also a very good indicator that they are a racist
     
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    You don’t understand because you don’t want to. Period.

    Nobody is claiming you received a pile of money at the “white privilege” store.

    You are less likely to be…….. followed around stores, stopped for driving while white, deemed untrustworthy on site. It’s that simple, really.

    Nobody handed you anything. Nobody is claiming that.
     
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    It is a bigotted racially stereotyped phrase.
     
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    I have been followed in stores, I have been stopped for driving where I was driving and for faulty tail/break lights/expired tag and I am sure some did not find me trustworthy. But again what did that gain me or how did that hold down black persons? What privilege do I have RIGHT NOW because I am white?
     
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    Meh.... since it's gone WAY too far, I only qualify as a milquetoast supporter of this privilege thing. I understand their generic point, but I'm more in the, "okay... let's move on already." So, if you won't even acknowledge the very basic point that they are absolutely pulled over more than white people, than nothing anyone can say will convince you. I'm certainly not vested enough to pound the point.

    I have to say, though, I got away with a LOT of **** in the 80s that should have landed me in jail and/or dead. Cops never arrested me, and they should have. At a minimum, I should have been charged with driving drunk, driving high, theft, and accessory to a shoplifting scheme. Others of less pasty skin probably didn't get the same white glove treatment. That, I'm clear about.
     
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    Calling it white privilege clouds what is really being described. It's not privilege, it's the absence of a negative resistance, and in no way is it felt universally.

    Think of it like this. Everyone is on a path in life, and like the land we live on, some of those paths may be easy and some may be hard. Think of it like having to walk uphill versus across flat ground or downhill, which would signify the hard times, the regular times, and the easier times in life in my analogy.

    Racism is like muck that you walk through. It can slow you down, trip you up, make the journey harder. White privilege essentially describes the presence or absence of that muck on each person's path in life, which will all be filled with uphill, flat ground, and downhill portions of their journey, though certainly not evenly distributed. White individuals will still be across the spectrum as to how hard life is for each specific person, it just has the chance of being less, just like having to make the same journey on a mucky road versus doing it on a non-mucky road. And that chance is just that, a chance. It's not universal. But, it does exist.

    White privilege is a poorly coined term, and I have to assume it was adopted with at least some degree of snark attached. Despite that, it does describe a real thing.
     
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    Privilege exists but it's a function of class not race.

    People who believe in white privilege believe things like a homeless white man is more privileged than a multibillionaire black woman.
     
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    If Bill Cosby had been poor and white, would he have avoided punishment as long as he did?
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Lol. Look up…. Hurry or you’ll miss the point. Junkie Turtle just wrote an excellent summary.
     
  23. conservaliberal

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    Now, that may have been the most eloquent, thoughtful criticism of the "white privilege" meme I've ever seen. I wish I could have done more than just to 'like' your post.
     
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    Is it?
    People experimenten in sending resumes of ethnic minorities to companies, and than they send them again after they whitened them.
    With that, they proved white privilege on an equal playing field and not that dumb example of yours.
     
  25. Joe knows

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    Yeah.. who was the author of those studies?
     

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