Is the term “White privilege” discriminatory?

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Is the term “white privilege” prejudice?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    People who work for Harvard business school.

    Sounds you refuse to acknowledge scientific research when it's not according to your white agenda.
     
  2. Joe knows

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    Post it first before I acknowledge or not acknowledge it. More and more so called scientific research has been proven to have political bias.
     
  3. notme

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    https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes-get-more-interviews

    And FYI. I do not accept your personal opinion of refusal of acknowledge as a way to debunk research from Harvard. I'm shoving it down your throat and you'll be needing a source with some kind of credibility to debunk with this. Thanks.
     
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  4. Joe knows

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    Oh okay, I’ve read that study before. They’re missing possibilities. This study assumes on one major aspect… just race. They didn’t take legal actions into consideration. Race is 3rd in line for the most discrimination lawsuits in America. Last I checked it accounted for somewhere in the 30’s% of discrimination lawsuits. Slightly behind retaliatory discrimination and disability discrimination.


    That being the case, if an employer were to read a resume where one is so “clear about their race” (as your study puts it) why would they want to risk the lawsuits as opposed to someone who is more likely not to sue? You see your article only looks at race while completely ignoring profits. so yes I think it’s flawed.
     
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  5. notme

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    I do not care about your personal opinion. This comes from Harvard. A well esteemed institute. You either debunk it with a source. Or this is it. Currently: this is it.
     
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    They didn’t take all the variables into account. That’s a fact. It’s a trash study
     
  7. Curious Always

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    From my understanding, they were exact resumes; complete duplicates of each other.

    The only difference was first name. Shanequa versus Pam. That's it.

    Pam got more hits.
     
  8. conservaliberal

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    Ever been a 'hiring-manager'? In large corporations, when you finally do get a requisition for new or replacement headcount, your sector's Human Resources department frequently provides unspoken but fairly strong advocacy for making certain that you remember company 'guidance' on inclusiveness and diversity... which are code words for, "Hire minorities, or you'll be doing yourself no favors!" 8)
     
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    Again. I do not care about your bias opinion as an amateur pushing your white agenda when I got Harvard saying how it is. It is not as if you would accept the opinion how it is from somebody who organizes BLM protests. I'm being perfectly reasonable. You are not.
     
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    You say this, Harvard proves something else.
     
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    I can only say that if "Harvard" had sat at my office desk for several years, it would have learned just how different real life is.... This whole ram-jam push to hire or promote minorities took everyone by storm during the Obama years, and it continues to this day, on "turbo".
     
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    Harvard used real life job openings in their research and got real life responses that proves systemic racism in the US society in real life.

    What you got is no proof, but an opinion / anekdote / fairytale.
    /care
     
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    Their study was biased. How can you have a study of employment opportunities when you only base race as the sole factor? This must be too hard for you… thinking on your own can be difficult
     
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    Do you accept the point the blacks engage in more crimes than other groups? Do you accept that if you as a group engage in more crime you will likely as a group you likey will have more contact with police? Do you propose we arrest fewer backs to make it even and equitable?
     
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    And, like Harvard, I could probably spend lots of time poring over "data" that I approve of, and cherry-picking the results I want. I'm familiar with all those 'dance-steps', too. Well, excuse me if I don't trust Harvard to find much of anything it doesn't WANT to find... no surprise. Don't believe me! I don't care, but you'll hear the same thing I told you from many, many other former mid and lower level managers, too. But you have hands-on experience to the contrary? Uh-huh....
     
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    Cheryl Harris in her book "Whiteness as Property," describes whiteness as a form of property, which confers privileges on its holders. In "Whiteness as Property," Harris writes, "The wages of whiteness are available to all whites, regardless of class position — even to those whites who are without power, money, or influence. Whiteness, the characteristic that distinguishes them from blacks, serves as compensation even to those who lack material wealth.”
     
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    If privilege exists it is not a result of race, it’s a result of class. If privilege is truly based on race then there should be evidence that wealthy minorities are being denied the same privileges that wealthy white people enjoy? Where is this evidence? On the other hand, according to the, "Handbook of Crime Correlates," while there is a correlation between blacks and Hispanics and crime, the data imply a much stronger tie between poverty and crime than crime and any racial group. In other words, socioeconomic status is what confers privilege, not race.
     
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    It must be hard for you to understand that I'm not interested in your bias amateur quack science opinion if you can not back it up with a source. So far it's crickets. So the research stands and white privilege got proven by Harvard, an academic source.
     
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    You're free to source with a link how Harvard committed fraud in this case.
     
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    Excellent.
    So far on the job market black people are being deprived from equal opportunity. That is what I sourced with a study done by Harvard.
     
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    Academics means next to nothing these days and this study proves it.
     
  23. Curious Always

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    Oh goodie! A quiz!!
    Yes, yes, no.

    Does that help? Would you care to delve into the overwhelming amount of history that went in to creating such an unhealthy environment? Do you get that the perception of how they “are,” predates them actually becoming the stereotype?

    It needs to be fixed. Education. Education. Education.
     
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    Education won’t fix their culture. Look at Lebrun James school he funds. He has given them tons of money and they still fail. The black community scream streets streets streets while you’re screaming education education education. The black community refuses to address their problems and I think successful people should refuse to help those who refuse to help themselves
     
  25. notme

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    You got an quack opinion with no source.
    I got a source.

    I win.
     
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