What is so attractive about Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton?

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    What "historic" success has No Comment Joe accomplished?
     
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    true, but we have to go with what the choices are, I would prefer younger options though
     
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    1) For starters: most jobs created, to this point in a President's term. I will grant, of course, that Covid-19 was a major factor, which influenced this post-Covid recovery. But you cannot already have forgotten the alarms raised, by your friends on the Right, that Biden's policies were leading to uncontrolled inflation, and would end up throwing us into a recession.
    2) Well, our inflation rate, is lowest, among the G7 countries, and experts are becoming ever more confident, that our strong economy will avoid the predicted recession. If this is what pans out, that would also be greatly historic: it would be, I think, the first time, that this oft-touted objective, of achieving a "soft landing"-- ratcheting up interest rates enough to squash inflation, without causing an economic retraction into recession-- has been successfully achieved.

    3) It should also be noted, that Biden's addressing of Global Warming, has been far more substantive than that of any of his predecessors; and his way of doing this, has been a part of our economic success, and is 4) actually bringing manufacturing jobs back to America, including in the high tech sector, with the CHIPS Act, which also
    5) addresses
    security issues surrounding our reliance on China and others, for products related to our critical infrastructure and national defense, which has been ignored by all past administrations. Speaking of defense issues,
    6) the coalition of nations opposing Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with economic sanctions and military aid, spearheaded by Pres. Biden, is also an historic achievement, which Biden has managed to, so far, hold together.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    micromanagers are a piece of **** example of a leader.

    there is a reason trump's business when BK
     
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    and surprisingly you are right wing, i detest blowhards of any persuasion, different views of what a leader even is, as i said
     
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    I think it was self-explanatory. Trump’s very unpresidential behavior, he behaves and acts like I said. That of a 4-year-old spoiled brat with his childish antics and his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. His personality is more of a WWE wrestler in a pre-fight interview than that of a president. Or that of a reality TV host, not a president. His behavior was way below the dignity the office of the presidency deserves. I’m not the only swing voter who views Trump this way. Independents, swing voters voted for Biden 54-41 over Trump in 2020.


    https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results


    56% of independents have a negative or unfavorable view of Trump. An identical 56% of all Americans have a negative view of Trump.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/gr0zwln1rr/econTabReport.pdf


    61% of independents don’t want Trump to run again for the presidency. 58% of all Americans don’t want Trump to run again either.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/pvpz4fi6ym/econTabReport.pdf


    Trump is a very easy man to dislike, me and a bunch of other swing voters dislike him as a man, an individual, a person.
     
  7. Quantum Nerd

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    There is nothing attractive about sleepy Joe and crooked Hillary. That's why they don't have a cu$t-like following, unlike Trump.

    However, unlike Trump, they are actually adults, and that's why they have to do.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you know there's a difference between a raw number and a percentage?
     
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    It's cute that in a thread about Joe Biden ignoring the deaths of Hawaiians, you can't wait until page two to start talking about Donald Trump. Rent free.
     
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    I don't like either of them. In fact, I can't stand the Clintons at all. Trump was going to be, and then proved himself to be, such an unmitigated disaster that I had to hold my nose and vote Hillary and Joe. Put up a better candidate, drop the misogyny and anti-LGBT nonsense, and maybe I'll vote for a Republican again. Actually, the candidate would have to show they'll stick to responsible economics as well. While I detest the tax and over spend nature of the Dems, it's preferable to the over spend and cut taxes Republicans right now.
     
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    Here's Hillary denying election results.

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    Yep, it's stupid when Dems do it too. Now what?
     
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    And I have called out her stupid arguments, about getting more votes, when she knows very well, that is not how the Presidential vote is decided. So, your post only shows how false it is, that the obsequious deference that Republicans give Trump, is the equivalent of what is seen broadly, on the Democratic side. IOW, you are comparing the average Republican, to only the most partisan, far Left Democrats-- if that, for some reason, makes you feel better about your blind loyalty.
     
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    It's not a crime. That's the point.
     
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    Oh, did Hillary and Abrams also try to get fake electors to go to the Capitol, and try to get various states to find more votes in their favor, and try to get the vice president to violate the Constitution? Did they also have a team if charlatans helping them work a scheme to defraud the country? Or are you just comparing apples to Mt. Everest?
     
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    They're the most attactive candidates because they're the most corrupt & involved internationalists. Every media outlet loves them and supports them entirely is solely due to the fact the people in charge acquire more power & money from them. The majority of the American population is retarded or midwits. Whatever the talking heads of authority tell them they'll believe it.
     
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    Competing slates were NOT sent to the capitol. Competing slates have been sent in the past, and it's not felony to do so.
    Have you read the transcript? He wanted a recount. They didn't want one because they didn't think a recount would change the outcome, and Trump simply pointed out that the margin was only 12,000 votes out of 5 million votes, making the point that it was only a margin of only a 1/4 of a percents. Recounts are common when races are that close.

    The take of politicized prosecutor is so far fetched that I'm not confident that these charges are even going to make it trial
    More fake news. The Constitution does not bar Pence from acting in the manner Trump suggested, and Pence rightly refused.
    We aren't the ones that falsely claimed that the counting was over for the night so that the GOP observers would leave and then hauled trunks full of ballots out from under tables.

    We aren't the ones that had late night dumps after the election that were 'just enough' to give the critical states to Bribed Joe.

    And the FBI and the CIA didn't deliberately lie about Hunter's laptop to gift the election to Trump.

    So, you might want to get off your high horse and quite trying to criminalize political disagreement.
     
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    They aren’t Trump
     
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    So Hillary and Abrams did not do those things, correct? You are, in fact, trying to compare their complaining to Trump's many, many attempts to subvert various parts of the election.
     
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    Again 34 counts of payments to a lawyer being called legal fees, charges at Mara Lago for doing the same thing every other ex president has ever done and were barely ever questioned, whatever counts in DC based on the assumption that they can read minds and the rico charges mainly duplicative garbage of everything else and also hinging upon the ability of the prosecutor to read minds.
     
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    Who is both singularly less corrupt and less authoritarian than either.
     
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    My guess is your sources are complete nonsense.
     
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    Only a Faux viewer could believe that!
     
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    Trying to end democracy.
     

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