Slaves were maids and stoop labor, cotton pickers, none were a BLACKSMITHS!!

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  1. Kal'Stang

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    Post 24.
     
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    Why do people start threads about things they know NOTHING about?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    1: They don't know how to google before insertion of foot in mouth.
    2: They're trolling.
    3: They're picking fights because they're bored.
     
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    Did you perhaps plan to ask the op to do the same? Of course not..
     
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    This thread did not go the way the OP intended.
     
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    Wrong.

    Desantis is wrong about many things and an idiot to defend slavery.

    But you are just as bad.

    Yes in many places slaves were trained as blacksmiths and other jobs on large plantations.

    https://www2.gwu.edu/~folklife/bighouse/panel19.html#:~:text=Richard Toler was trained as,dog was superior to us.

    Im fine with it if you wish to attack and criticize desantis but at least educate yourself first
     
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    WTF is "stoop labor"?


    You mean "porch monkey" ?

    Funny how still to this very day the snitches in the community fear the community more than they fear the government's cops, ain't it?

    Say, how is that working out for the community? Good? Bad? Seems like the community is all for lynching, so long as it ain't the cops making arrests.
     
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    But how did they “benefit.? Were they allowed to go into business on their own? Be freed so their children were not sold?
     
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    not relevant here
     
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    They learned a trade that stood them in good stead after the war. And more than a few such were freed upon their master's death.
     
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    https://nmaahc.si.edu/blacksmith

    "Blacksmiths like Solomon Williams held revered positions in America and West Africa, thanks to their knowledge, talent, and skill. Under American slavery, blacksmiths often traveled to make tools and ornamental ironwork for many plantations and towns. They carried news from the outside world and became leaders across enslaved communities. In parts of West Africa, blacksmiths were both valued and feared. Because they created something out of nothing, they were seen as holding special powers. Like potters and griots they brought new worlds into being."

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    Take it up with the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
     
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    Sold how?

    Do you know what the dollar amount of debt an American citizen of today is responsible for the day they start paying into the Ponzi scheme?

    In other words what is our national debt divided by our population?

    If I were going to have kids today, I would drive Mom to Mexico for their birth then throw then throw our offspring back across the rio grande. They would still have access to all the benefits of citizenship but without any of that pesky entanglement of a citizen's responsibility it's to our national debt. They can just work for cash like a "undocumented worker" and I have little to no doubt that it would make them better off economics wise than a U.S. government college loan recipient.

    So don't tell me that children are not sold. Every leftist media here in the States now still bitches about slavery yet without a care about it they go on their merry way paying tribute for license to get paid so they can pay taxes.
     
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    Selective outrage of a nothing burger.

    Florida is only regurgitating the same **** taught by Advanced placement program for african american students.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news...o-includes-section-on-slaves-learning-skills/
    AP Curriculum Touted by Progressives Also Includes Section on Slaves Learning Skills
    In Unit 2 of the AP’s syllabus on “Slavery, Labor, and American Law,” a chapter on the slave economy suggests that slaves learned to become “painters, carpenters, tailors, musicians, and healers” and subsequently “used these skills to provide for themselves and others.”
     
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    Jobs for everyone?

    If that ain't the leftist fantasy....
     
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    I have already proven him wrong. Try to keep up.
     
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    Is there a reason you're making this false statement other than it creates cognitive dissonance? There's a ton of historical literature to prove you wrong. Have you done any research before obviously taking a partisan perspective from an unreliable source?
     
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    My citation: New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oregon, Colorado, Alaska, DC, etc... all have passed laws that legalize abortion until the moment of birth.

    Challenge accepted and easily defeated with basic facts.
     
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    Think of all those slaves who benefited from learning natural, holistic medical treatments and pain management after being whipped or beaten. How very thoughtful of those nice slave owners to teach them those skills.

    The genesis of the backlash to RonDon came as a result of his cynical use of FL's K-12 curriculum as a campaign strategy. He claimed to have eliminated CRT despite it never being taught. The sanitized new curriculum conflates a massacre of 30 black people who were killed for attempting to vote in 1920, with acts of violence perpetrated by African Americans. Cuz we need to be fair and balanced when teaching about slavery and institutionalized racism like Jim Crow. "Jim Crow," FL students say, "who was that?"
     
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    In which case you completely miss the point, which is that much if not all of the CRT and 1619 project are little better than latter day mythology.
     
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    Oh for pity sake of course it was it was black and white parents complaining about it that made it a potent campaign issue. This was a grass roots issue long before Desantis piggy backed on to it. CRT and the 1619 project are little more than another leftist attempt to micromanage hate for fun and profit. Quit making crap up.
     
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    Blacksmithing at Monticello
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    Monticello
    https://www.monticello.org › slavery › the-plantation
    Blacksmithing was a highly valued skill. Jefferson gave his enslaved blacksmiths a share of the profits he earned from their work repairing tools for local ...

    Blacksmithing
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    Poplar Grove Plantation
    http://poplargrove.org › gullah-geechee-2 › blacksmith
    Planters relied on slaves to provide their services as blacksmiths, carpenters, shoemakers, spinners, tanners, coopers, weavers, and other artisan skills” ...

    Cultural Landscape of Plantation--SLAVE SKILLS AND TALENTS...
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    The George Washington University
    https://www2.gwu.edu › ~folklife › bighouse › panel19
    The services of slave blacksmiths, carpenters, coopers, shoemakers, tanners, spinners, weavers and other artisans were all used to keep plantations running ...

    Since the OP is so obviously ignorant of basic history, I'm going to assume that whatever point he was trying to make with his pseudohistory was ignorance-fueled nonsense.
     
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    You have no basis to say" slaves were not blacksmiths". Slaves were also bricklayers, carpenters and wheelwrights. They learned those trades on "merit". This does in no way excuse slavery but they are facts! Slaves were also talented chefs. "Merit" has a way of helping people rise above unfortunate situations. Now there are no slaves. Maybe it's time for folks to get off the racial enterprise and live MLK's dream. Judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin!
     
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    I think this thread supports the leftist idea that blacks in the South were "no better than menial labor". Well if slave masters were in it for profit as we all know and you propose, then why would they not exploit those with talents? You can't have it both ways! While declaring Ron DeSantis a racist for examining a legitimate truth, leftists and race baiters deny that a race can achieve greatness even under the cruel auspice of slavery. That is racist in itself. The Bible is full of accounts of despised Israelites rising in stature even under the rule of slavery due to their servants heart and other virtues. Joseph and Moses being two of them.
     
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    When I first did some research on the 1619 Project, I was amazed that anybody could possibly be naive and historically-ignorant enough to believe such obvious nonsense, let alone think it is something that should be taught in schools.

    But then I see the rantings of the metypea1s of the world, and it makes perfect sense how such mythology is allowed into classrooms rather than being laughed into oblivion.
     
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