Biden adminstration considering plan to force migrants to remains in Texas: report

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No, but once they request asylum they get temporary legal status. It’s not that complicated.
     
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    How many who cross the border away from border entries are turning themselves in? Is it irresponsible of the Biden admin to allow people into the country without being thoroughly vetted?
     
  3. Steve N

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    Why America? Why not any of the other paradises they passed through to gt here? I suspect they're being encouraged to come here because the presidents of Mexico and Guatemala said Biden set expectations for them and the human smugglers in the countries they're coming from show pictures of illegals staying in nice hotels in NYC.

    Ya know, if the illegals watched CNN or followed some of the libs on this board, they'd hear that much of this country is racist, hate POC, will keep them from ever voting, will profile them, will be persecuted and oppressed, will be victims of an unjust legal system, and will do back breaking work for slave wages. That stuff is actually said and they still come here. Why?
     
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    Because if you watch FOX news and listen to republicans, they says illegals get everything for free, so why wouldn't they come here.
     
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    Texas is full.
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well they are getting free phones, food, health care, a place to stay and plus this is what started it.

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    How? Isn't welfare and subsidized healthcare for illegals banned federally?
     
  8. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask the folks who raised their hands, plus CA is already doing it.

    Here's more good news for the left, tax paying Americans will have to sacrifice so the illegals can get a free ride. I'll tell ya one thing, Adams must not know what he's doing because Martha's Vineyard didn't put up with this crap.

    NYC Mayor Eric Adams sounds alarm on migrant crisis, warns a ‘financial tsunami’ is ahead

    The mayor warned that every city department will likely see budget cuts to address the anticipated $12 billion price tag of the migrant crisis

    New York City Mayor Eric Adams on Sunday said the influx of tens of thousands of migrants will bring a "financial tsunami" as departments across the board are forced to slash budgets to accommodate the new arrivals.

    The mayor’s dire warning came during an appearance on PIX 11’s "PIX on Politics" days after he predicted that the crisis "will destroy New York City.

    "We are about to experience a financial … tsunami that I don’t think the city has ever experienced," Adams said. "Every service in this city is going to be impacted from child service to our seniors to housing. Everything will be impacted.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny...-migrant-crisis-warns-financial-tsunami-ahead
     
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    Yes- but that IS NOT the same as a citizen or a even an immigrant with a green card. It's more like a person under arrest who is released on their own recognizance with restrictions and an obligation to appear-
    which they then ignore and don't bother showing up for. A responsible government would stop putting itself in that position. Stop putting the American citizens in that situation.
    IF we had a responsible government, the people of America, the safety and security of America, would come first. Always. IF.

    But some of our people are so foolish they buy every excuse and abuse the Biden administration feeds them, and think it's a good deal to be screwed over... and be less valuable to your own country than any foreigner who wants to walk across the border to get what you have.
     
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    No, it doesn’t lmao.
     
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    Of course it’s not the same as a citizen. But they’re not illegal while awaiting an asylum hearing. This isn’t some new Biden law.
     
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    Can I Still Apply for Asylum Even if I Am in the United States Illegally?
    Yes. You may apply for asylum with USCIS regardless of your immigration status if:

     
  13. Steve N

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    I know you're going to cite laws that really don't address the current crisis, but why don't you tell us your real feelings about illegals. i suspect you'd allow them all to come in.
     
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    I’d make it easier for people to come in legally.
     
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    I'm looking forward to hearing what your system to do that would be.
     
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    You can apply for whatever you want lol that doesn’t mean anything.
     
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    Secession!!!!!
     
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    "Illegal" is a category- which can be altered in definition, and can require proof- or be taken without any at all. A person entering illegally simply asks for asylum and his category changes. HE has that power because OUR rules are like dishwater. That doesn't mean he has just cause, and most do not- but it's the magic word to get to stay. Being that, its legitimacy is irrelevant to most. The cartels that charge these people large sums of money to take them over the border actually have printed instruction cards they give to the immigrants, including telling them what to say if they are caught.

    The surge, literally wave after wave of people coming thousands of miles with the expectation of just walking into America only exists because Biden invited it to happen. The federal immigration law states it is a felony to encourage or assist any alien to enter the US illegally, or to assist them in any way if they have. Biden is guilty of this, thousands of times over.

    Our failure to keep border immigration orderly and legitimate has created a huge industry for the drug cartels in Mexico. Literally, our refusal to enforce our own border is a gold mine for the drug gangs, a cash cow for them. An immigrant pays the cartels- and if they don't, the cartels steal their money and property and block them. If they pay, they get three chances to cross with the coyote guides. They put colored bracelets on the immigrants, which prove they are paid. Those bracelets also show how much, and if they are on their first, second, or third attempt, each changing color. If they don't make it on the third try, they have to pay again.

    Literally, our refusal to control the border has given the worst criminals you can imagine a thriving industry- and every successful entry encourages more to try. Those here who find work or ways to get money send money back to others to finance their travel and illegal entries. That's part of what's called "remittances". Remittances are the largest source of cash flowing into Mexico today, exceeding their revenue from oil sales and tourism. In 2020 with Biden's new policy.... illegal immigrant traffic surged. In 2021, remittances surged 27% to a record $51.6 billion US dollars. That's cash money leaving the US that is not coming back nor buying any goods or services.

    This is not about closing the border, it's about controlling our borders and legitimizing the immigration process.

    The right process is for asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until approved.
    The right corrective step today would be to immediately close the border to all traffic that is not fully verified and necessary, such as commercial shipping of goods. Improve all control factors, re-train border officials to new standards, and then re-open a controlled border- fully enforced. Ending the illegal crossings is not impossible either. Any person entering illegally regardless of claims gets sent back- but is forever barred from being in the USA again. Second offense, serious felony, serious penalty followed by deportation.

    All you have to do to end detrimental conduct is to stop tolerating it. In the case of our border, that starts with stopping the encouragement of it, and that starts with the mental case in the white house that has no respect at all for the nation he is supposed to lead or its people.

    It would appear that the guy has your endorsement.
     
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    During the Obama years the DNC stated that Latinos were the future of the Democrat party. With that in mind, is it just a coincidence that the last two democrat presidents opened the floodgates?
     
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    And, as I have stated before, it's amazing to me why you can't understand that perspectives like the above drive more people to cross the border.



    Another example of progressive lefties ideas and statements creating undesirable results and then pretending they don't understand why progressive areas suck.
     
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    I looked it up. What you say isn't true.
     
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    Has anyone noticed the two largest surges of illegals came under democrat presidents. Do you think the DNC memo about Latinos being the party’s future might have something to do with it?
     
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    OK…….

    Federal law requires asylum seekers remain in the US. Biden tried to set the same kind of “Remain in Mexico” policy Trump implemented, and the courts struck it down, just like they did for Trump.

    So while you righties are all loosing your minds, blaming Joe for his “open borders”, you refuse to admit that:
    1. Bide IS trying to stop them
    2. The border isnt “open”
    3. Bidens policy is to keep Trumps policy at the border…
     
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    When you cross the border somewhere along the Rio Grande or out in the BFE desert, you are not crossing legally. That makes you illegal.

    ALERT: Court Order on Circumvention of Lawful Pathways Final Rule

    On Aug. 3, 2023, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit issued a stay of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California’s order in East Bay Sanctuary Covenant v. Biden, 18-cv-06810 (N.D. Cal.), vacating the Circumvention of Lawful Pathways (CLP) rule. At this time and while the stay remains in place, USCIS will continue to apply the CLP rule.

    Under the rule, certain individuals who enter the United States through its southwest land border or adjacent coastal borders are presumed to be ineligible for asylum, unless they can demonstrate an exception to the rule or rebut the presumption. Individuals are encouraged to use lawful, safe, and orderly pathways to come to the United States.
    https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/...matively,on affirmative and defensive filings.
     

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