Biden adminstration considering plan to force migrants to remains in Texas: report

Fair. Good job.

 

I'm curious what your definition of an illegal immigrant is?

 

Someone who has no papers to be here. What do you think it is?

 

Just an FYI, the Biden admin's policy does not currently accept asylum applications from people who cross into the US illegally. This policy was implemented earlier this year, in July a federal judge blocked this policy, but the Biden admit appealed, and as of now the policy is still active

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/25/texas-biden-asylum-rule-california-judge/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/03/us/politics/biden-asylum-appeal.html

Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants, these are people who are currently going through the legal process available to them.

 

Well then I've got some news for you about asylum seekers.....

 

For everyone’s reference.



Refugees and Asylum
Refugee status or asylum may be granted to people who have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, and/or membership in a particular social group or political opinion.

Refugees
Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States. Refugees are generally people outside of their country who are unable or unwilling to return home because they fear serious harm. For a legal definition of refugee, see section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

You may seek a referral for refugee status only from outside of the United States. For more information about refugees, see the Refugees section.

Asylum
Asylum status is a form of protection available to people who:

• Meet the definition of refugee
• Are already in the United States
• Are seeking admission at a port of entry

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum

 

What’s your point dude? If you got one spit it out, we’re not writing a suspense novel.

 

I think that Texas should follow the president's lead. Not only make them stay in Texas, but make them stay in the county that they crossed into. That would limit the damage and the horrific affects would be so obvious that the media could not hide from it.

 

Hey, have you been to El Paso recently? It’s a friggin nightmare.

 

Totally impractical, and costly plan. All you need to do is crack down, for real, on those who hire undocumented workers. Yes, this means updating the system for validating a person's right to work-- but that's not money thrown down the drain, like by doing "biometric scans," of every illegal border crosser, or even by needing to fly everybody home. If nobody is willing to take the risk of hiring them, most will continue on, to Canada-- try to choke us with your smoke, will ya?

Of course, there is no full answer, to address illegal immigration, without updating our policies on legal immigration-- something both Parties have stalled on, in the past, but which now Democrats seem ready to earnestly address, but which Republicans would prefer to try to use as an issue in the next election. Our nation has always benefitted from immigrants, and still does, and can moreso do. In my own state, construction projects on roads & infrastructure has been slowed, due to the state being shy by about 200 engineers. Our nation's agriculture industry relies on seasonal, migrant workers. But just because we have unfilled needs, does not mean that we need indiscriminately welcome in all.

It is a valid point, for instance, that our asylum laws were meant for those suffering political persecution-- not for economic refugees. Clearly, it is wise to maintain both order in, and control of our population's growth. This cannot be done, with simplistic slogans, like "build a wall," but requires a comprehensive overhaul of our national policies, by politicians who are willing to put the good of the country, ahead of partisan politics. That leaves us, at the moment, up the river, and only halfway across, with a saw blade barrier of nets and buoys, blocking our way.

 

What does undocumented mean to you?

 

No, the last time was in 2006 for the Stones concert. It was a $hit hole then. I don't remember it being too bad when I lived there in 82. Anyway, can you immagine how bad it would be if those people were confined to El Paso county?

 

they applied for asylum, they are not illegals

 

An asylum seeker is not undocumented.. they are literally given a temporary visa, which by its legal definition is not an undocumented immigrant

An asylum seeker is not an illegal immigrant. That should be obvious enough by now

 

This is true. I believe our legal definition for asylum seeker needs to change. If they move through another country that is safe I believe they forfeit the right to claim asylum. But as the law currently stands they can do just that

 

But the blue states voted in the policies which directly.impact the red states...thinking it's not a problem because it's "over there" as they stand up high on a virtuous platform of ignorance.

Sokay. Joe is gonna go away soon.

 

No one should be able to illegally cross the border and then claim that they're in asylum seeker only after they have been caught in the country illegally.

That should be an automatic revocation of any such claim

 

Republicans would never do that to cubans

 

Republicans should never allow what they are doing for Cubans.

 

Biden just wants to ensure millions of new potential Democrat voters stay in a Republican state. Slick move by Biden.

 

I think there's a plan...

 

Well I love that they're finally getting a taste of their own medicine. Then the true colors come out.

 

Someone who enters the US without going through an approved entry point.

"Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

 

The real answer is to hammer the businesses who employ illegals, taking away the reason they cross the border in the first place.
"“What we do is we don’t ask,” said Lorena, a Mexican immigrant whose family has built up a small oil field services business. She estimated that more than 90% of her employees were Mexican immigrants and that only 5% to 10% had genuine working papers. Her last name was not used to protect her identity."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-oil-boom-of-immigrant-workers-idUSKBN1WS0BI

 

Perhaps they can build a wall to keep them in TX!