The Hunter Impeachment, Day 1: For heaven's sake.. TRUMP appointed him!

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  1. CornPop

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    You don't think that RFK could win the general as the Dem nominee? I do. I think Dems would have their strongest election since a nation in mourning elected the VP of his fallen Uncle, JFK.

    And let's keep in mind that it's Bribed Joe who is under impeachment inquiry, not Crackhead Hunter.
     
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    Oh, I thought you meant as an independent.

    The odds of him getting the Democrat nomination are effectively zero in my mind.
     
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    I don't think that Dirtbag Merrick successfully lied his way out of this, because he's obviously lying.

    Lying Dirtbag Merrick Garland

    'Attorney General Merrick Garland testified on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee and, in the words of constitutional attorney Jonathan Turley, essentially told Americans to “go pound sand.” Among other things, Garland told members of the committee that he didn’t know anything about:'
    'Garland is eclipsing the corruption of Obama’s DOJ. It’s only been three years, but he’s already launched investigations into:'
    • 'Pro-life Catholics
    • Gun owners and dealers
    • Parents attending school board meetings.'
    'If you’re a conservative living in Joe Biden’s America, there’s a very real possibility you could get a knock on your door from the feds. Just ask the J6 protesters who peacefully walked through the Capitol. The feds are still hunting them down and arresting them. And ask the Catholic father who was arrested in a heavily armed FBI raid on his home for the crime of trying to save unborn lives. And ask the father who demanded to know why no action was taken at the school where his daughter was raped why he was treated like a terrorist.'

    You think you guys are getting away with all this, and I think the voters are going to hold them accountable, and then that GOP appointees are going to hold them accountable to the law.

    And no one is impeaching Hunter, your topic title is a gaslight.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    As I said, feel free to open a thread with all your conspiracy theories. This thread is about a congressional investigation in which, unlike your wingnute media talking point, EVIDENCE is required. At least I HOPE evidence is required. The Republican Party has sunk so low, that you can never know for sure. But if there is any evidence, that's where we're likely to see it. And if there isn't, that's where we will see that too.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The title is NOT false. It's sarcastic. There's a difference. I don't expect right wingers to grasp subtle humor, but it is just TOO obvious that you can't impeach somebody who does not even hold public office. But the thing is that you have heard basically NOTHING about any wrongdoing by Joe, and loads of accusations against Hunter in the hearings.

    As for the rest, as I said: feel free to open a thread with all the conspiracy theories you can think of for which you have no evidence. THIS thread is about a Congressional investigation, in which, if a congressman wants to claim a conspiracy, they damn well better have PROOF or they end up looking foolish.

    That's not a requirement in this forum, but it's not what this thread is for.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    AND Weiss works independently of the Department of Justice when he received Special Council powers. This is why they're called "Independent Councils".
     
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    But that is why congress is investigating.

    But I mentioned long list of items in addition to the LLC shell companies.
     
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    It's okay to admit you're wrong. He still works for the DoJ and so does his team.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/special_prosecutor

    He is a US Attorney working within the DoJ. That hasn't changed. US Attorneys "normally exercise jurisdiction" over these matters. That's the whole point of having US Attorneys. Independence requires someone from outside the DoJ (retired judges, non-DoJ attorneys, etc).

    Also, the word you're looking for is counsel. You're already getting basic facts wrong, but not knowing the difference between a council and a counsel isn't helping. It's important to know what a counsel is before we can go any further in this educational session. It's difficult to have this conversation with someone that doesn't know we aren't talking about a council.
     
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    Hey there - and Trump was impeached on no evidence, it was all lies, remember that? Yep, Durham said there was nothing there to say Trump colluded with Russia. Then he called Zelensky to ask about Burisma and if previous senile grifter Biden had threatened to hold funds if they did not fire the prosecutor. They impeached him for what Biden actually did at Burisma. Now Biden is doing law fare against his chief opponent. You got that cupcake? I guess using gestapo tactics is your way to roll too?. You do research? Obviously, you just research from democratic underground because your whole entire post ignores the truth. Everything you Nazis spew out are lies. Don Jr was called in by Pelosi's house and questioned for 20 hours over nothing. How dare they call in the crack addict, whoring son of Biden? Your lucky the GOP house doesn't fight like the dems or you would be huddled in a corner whimpering. You are nothing but a leftist hack, who stands for nothing.
     
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    . Did you see any of Garland's testimony in front of Congress? He tried to bluff, bluster and tap dance around questions dealing with his interactions with the investigators.
     
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    That's not an argument explaining why it's true, rather you are justifying why it's false, which concedes the point.
     
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    VERY predictable that you would say that.

    To trumpists, anybody who is not a Trump cultist is lying.

    Makes no difference: Trump will be prosecuted, and Joe will NOT. Easy as that. Thanks for playing....
     
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    Well, some of these folks seem to think that they can lie their way out of anything, and then they don't want to discuss why Bribed Joe is 11.9 points BEHIND in the polls compared to where he was at this point in the last election cycle. Allow me to suggest to you that all the lying isn't working with the American People.

    And Hunter's not under impeachment inquiry, Bribed Joe is.
     
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    I know why Congress is investigating: They know Trump is a proven criminal, and they need an excuse to make up some story that might fool their base so they believe that Biden is almost as bad. Right now they're just making fools of themselves.
     
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    He's on the DOJ payroll. Just like Mueller was. He's a Special Prosecutor. Which means he has NO oversight from the DOJ and can bring whatever charges he deems necessary. What is it I'm supposed to be wrong ABOUT?
     
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    Trump was impeached with so much evidence even most Republicans in the Senate had to admit it. To the point that they ADMITTED they acquited him, not because he didn't commit the crime.... some because they thought it would be a bad idea to remove a President, others because they believed a President could do whatever the hell they want.

    You're in the wrong thread though. Not the topic of this one.
     
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    That is a completely binary statement. It is possible, or even likely that both men can be criminals. I see too much evidence on Biden that cannot be ignored.

    Personally, I think the impeachments are a mistake. Including Clinton, Trump and Biden. They will never go anywhere because they cannot get past the senate. But since we are already heading down this road, it should keep on going.
     
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    THAT doesn't, but the part that followed which you didn't include in your quote does.
     
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    No it doesn't.
    • You can't argue that your title is true because it is false,
    • Instead you justified using a false title.
    • Justifying a false title admits the title is false, it does not make the false title true.
    Third IRS Official Says DOJ Blocked Weiss From Charging in Biden Probe

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    Dirtbag Merrick rigging Crackhead Hunter's felonies to protect the Biden Crime Family Boss, Bribed Joe.

    'A third IRS official confirmed that Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss faced roadblocks when attempting to bring charges against Hunter Biden, contradicting denials issued Wednesday by' Dirtbag Merrick Garland.

    'IRS Director of Field Operations Michael Batdorf told the House Ways and Means Committee in a closed-door interview on Sept. 12 that he felt “frustrated” by the refusal of the Justice Department to approve tax charges that IRS agents viewed as well-supported by evidence, according to a transcript of the interview obtained by the Washington Examiner.'

    The Biden Crime Family did not pay the taxes on the at least $21M in bribes from foreign oligarchs that they routed through dozens of shell companies to hide the money trail and then emptied into the bank accounts of 9 different Bidens, including some Grandchildren!

    The folks trying to help Bribed Biden lie his way out of this claim that bribes from corrupt foreign oligarchs being paid to the grandchildren of the family members of US office holders is perfectly normal, hiding the payments in a maze of shell companies is not suspicious, and not paying taxes on it isn't evidence of corruption. This is the same corrupt sonofabitch that just added 80,000 IRS agents to audit all the rest of us.

    Your title is false on multiple levels:
    • This is an impeachment inquiry, not an impeachment,
    • iIt targets Bribed Joe, not Crackhead Hunter.
     
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    Hah! You never could understand the term "binary", could you? They COULD both be criminals, but there is evidence for only ONE. In fact, for the other one, there isn't even so much as an ACCUSATION.

    Look.... serious question: haven't they fooled you enough times that you might one day think TWICE about repeating the nonsense you hear on.... whatever wingnut media feeds you all this nonsense? I mean... Dominion, Pizzagate, January 6 being a "tourist visit", voter fraud, the conspiracy of scientists to push AGW, ... One would think that you would at least wait until you believed yet ANOTHER one of these conspiracy theories they feed you.
     
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    Sigh. Mueller retired from the FBI in 2013. That's why he was choosen to be a special counsel. You told me I needed to read your signature that says something about you researching the validity of your arguments. Yet thus far you have made the following laughably absurd statements:

    1. US Attorneys do not report through the Attorney General.

    2. US Attorneys do not work for the DoJ.

    3. US Attorney David Weiss is independent of the DoJ.

    4. David Weiss is multiple people and has formed a super special council all by himself. Perhaps he needs lithium?

    5. Current US Attorney David Weiss is the same as retired Robert Mueller when it comes to following the special counsel statute because they were both paid by the government for their work.

    Quite frankly it's been a long time since I've seen such a string of repetitive falsehoods and completely nonsensical arguments in a thread. And it comes across as completely awkward considering your scolding to read your signature that claims you've researched your arguments. There is absolutely no source in existence for any of these absurd arguments. No other person in history has ever presented such inane nonsense. These are all contrived from your imagination and based on nothing. So let's be honest and just say these arguments are unresearched assumptions based on no foundational knowledge of the subject at hand.

    This thread is a total failure and a complete disaster. It's dying. Just let it die. Stop making it suffer.
     
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    Huh? You actually don't know that it wasn't TRUMP who appointed Weiss to this case?

    Unbelievable! Not worth wasting a single keystroke more.
     
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    Who cares? Don't tell me you're like the poster I just responded to who didn't know that it was TRUMP who appointed Weiss. Weiss is now an Independent Prosecutor. Which means he can bring charges to ANYBODY he wants, related to his investigation, and does NOT need any sort of authorization from the DOJ. This is what "independent" means.
     
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    The law.

    Any other trick questions?
     

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