The theory that Isaeli intelligence knew about the attacks beforehand

Well, sorry, but sucks to be them. Just like I didn't vote for the current Idiot-In-Chief but I, along with everyone who did vote for him, still have to suffer the consequences of his idiotic policies.....

 

Neither Mossad nor the IDF are all powerful in the best of times

 

Exactly. Just like the United States on 9/11. No matter which version of the story you believe, there were people on both sides wondering how the United States, of all countries, with 137 alphabet agencies, could not have seen that attack coming from a mile away.

 

That the idiot in chief is cosigning everything Israel does should be a caution flag.

 

why?

 

I'd never heard the theory that Hamas was controlled by Israel until I watched the video in post #11. It does seem kind of strange that they'd carry out an attack such as this knowing that the retaliation would be horrific. I can understand real anti-Zionist Palestinians going on suicide missions but if they were controlled by Israel, I doubt they would go on such a suicide mission. Were most of them really killed? I'm wondering if that's true. There are several plausible scenarios and we'd have to have actual proof to know which one is the real one.

Here's some more food for thought.
https://thecovidblog.com/2023/10/13...-second-great-genocide-earlier-than-expected/

 

Because someone with a big stick needs to be the voice of reason

 

This is an old video,but it's relevant.

Max Igan & Ken O'Keefe in Gaza - False Flags & America's 'National Interest' - September 2012

 

The only logical conclusion is that the current events are some sort of staged events. It is impossible that Mossad was not aware of the buildup in Gaza. Ron Paul mentioned in 2011 that it was well known that Bibi and Mossad worked with and partly funded Hamas by way of Qatar.

The goal of Greater Israel has long been discussed in informed circles. No, never on CBS or NBC, but in informed circles.

IMO the goal here is the complete elimination of Palestine, what little bit is left. The Israelis want to expand their territory, and the US Army is helping do that in Syria and elsewhere.

 

That's what this guy says.

Max Igan Balfour's Time Bomb - The Other Side of the News - 10-13-23
https://odysee.com/@Qwinten:b/Max-Igan-Balfour's-Time-Bomb---The-Other-Side-of-the-News---10-13-23:1

 

My initial thought when I first heard about this was, 'Geeze, they're at it again.' Then, 'Why would Hamas attack Israel? All they're gonna do is get a lot of civilians killed, and they know it.' I think it was Wednesday when I got curious enough to look it up. Wasn't hard to find.

The deluge of mainstream hoopla about 'Poor Israel!' and 'Israel's got a right to defend itself!' for the umpteenth time seemed telling. The first story I found was the babies getting their heads chopped off. I learned the media got the story from one IDF soldier (who didn't actually see it) and never bothered to confirm it. Biden helped it along with the voice of authority and more media picked up the decapitated babies story, yet none of them bothered to confirm the info, either. Also reported, "Israeli official says government has not confirmed..."

Another Ghost of Kyiv story. Gotta ask, 'Why is MSM blatantly lying to create Israeli sympathy the same way they created sympathy for Ukraine?' Ukraine sympathy was a setup to con Americans out of a ton of money for the continuing attempts at regime change since 2014.

https://imageupload.io/9u4W0e9lRviSwHI

The truism by Chomsky in Lee Atwater's sig:

Anyone gotta WAG about who's who?
https://imageupload.io/22ZXoIrze44l6Hs

It's the same gov't-controlled MSM BS: Israel set up the Palestinians with a false flag like the US set up the Hawaiians with a very plausable yet nevertheless orchestrated fire. Also like Hawaii, the Israeli gov't has cut off Palestinian water, electricity and humanitarian food. It's a land grab and the question is how many people have to die. Hawaiians were in the thousands and Palestinians may be in the tens of thousands before Israel is done with the slaughter.

 

This is a good site to find objective info.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/?s=Israel+Gaza&x=10&y=10

They only allow articles by sincere truth-seeking analysts. They're not always right, but they're always sincere. I never see anything there that looks like intentional disinfo.

Check out this article.

Is the Gaza-Israel Fighting “A False Flag”? They Let it Happen? Their Objective Is “to Wipe Gaza Off the Map”?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/is-th...ing_wp_cron=1697036863.0644779205322265625000
(excerpt)
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Was the Hamas Attack a “False Flag”?

“I served in the IDF 25 years ago, in the intelligence forces. There’s no way Israel did not know of what’s coming.

A cat moving alongside the fence is triggering all forces. So this??

What happened to the “strongest army in the world”?

How come border crossings were wide open?? Something is VERY WRONG HERE, something is very strange, this chain of events is very unusual and not typical for the Israeli defense system.

To me this suprise attack seems like a planned operation. On all fronts.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I would say that this feels like the work of the Deep State.

It feels like the people of Israel and the people of Palestine have been sold, once again, to the higher powers that be.

 

Yes, the best way to find out if any given event is legitimate or not is to examine how the MSM handles it. If it's 24/7 coverage with strong emotional appeals, it's most likely an inside job.

 

That is probably one of THE most absurd posts I have ever read. So now the ONLY criteria for a conspiracy involves it being a major event worthy of extensive coverage.

 

I, too feel that there is much more to this story than is being reported in MSM.

It is simply not credible that Hamas could organize an attack this brazen and of this magnitude without Mossad knowing well in advance.

It is already a fact that almost half of Israel's Jews admit to supporting ethnic cleansing(1). I suspect that many more support ethnic cleansing but chose not to answer truthfully.

This would not be the first example of Zionists sacrificing Jews for the "Greater Good", or in this case, "Greater Israel".

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

So, the question remains, how many Jewish lives would Israel's ruthless Right Wing be willing to sacrifice in order to destroy Gaza and and kill or expel Palestine's native residents?



(1)“Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

 

When it's 24/7 emotional hype, it's kinda obvious. That's when I scan backpage news to see what the gov't may be trying to divert attention away from.

Like in late 2011, while the media was consumed with election news, the China/Russia oil deal used their own currency, right after which Moody dropped the petrodollar's rating by a full point. Financial news had the story but no MSM headline news:

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/the-petrodollar-system-and-the-petrodollar-wars-explained/

Like in January 2020, while the headlines hyped Trump using Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, the gov't shutdown and Kushner's suspicious money transfers, the 19th's news quietly mentioned Trump renewed NSA's foreign surveillance program, including American citizen data collection. On the 20th, the new USMCA deal was quietly reported, which signed away US sovereignty in foreign and domestic trade.

Given the evolution of the MSM over the past 30/40 years of moving from spinning a few story details to flat-out lying to disguise and support a false-flag event, my default has become, 'Is the story true?' When 'it's 24/7 with the emotional BS' as @Eleuthera posted, the question becomes irrelevant.

The irrelevancy can be applied to Israel/Hamas news. You asked how could Mossad not know and I noted water, electricity and humanitarian food was cut off, and the BS beheadings story no one verified. Few seem to check for themselves as MSM drowns the world with Israeli victimhood and sows righteous anger for their support.

Which, of course, fully justifies Biden/US supporting Israel with about $25B of the $106B foreign aid package... in addition to annual billions the US already sends them.

Which supports small incidents of individual cruelties MSM will ignore.

No, it isn't. From Ben-Gurion and Begin to Netanyahu that willingness has been a consistent part of Zionist policy for a long time.

As many as it takes.

 

"Im not into conspiracy theories, but..." I'm glad you're open to them when they're so obvious.

 

Page below is a video of a guy announcing "Israel will release unedited bodycam footage of Hamas." In the video, the guy says the "gruesome footage" will be released to the media on Monday, October 23.

The announcing video is a little over a minute and auto-loads the first, 70 second "gruesome" video. It wasn't grusome and looked staged.

With all that gunfire you'd think the driver/passenger died in a bloody mess, yet the bullet-cracked windshield had no blood on it. The 'dead' driver was still sitting up straight and the 'dead' passenger was leaning against the driver, and although both faces were intentionally blurred, there was no blood on either of them.

I didn't bother searching for the 'official' announcement as the article/video is on DailyMail as an advertisement. Just more propaganda.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...bodycam-footage-Hamas-murders.html?mwv_rm=rta

 

FFS! Palestinians are not being "indiscriminately" killed. Only one side of this conflict does that.

 

So many stupid f*cking tin foil hat wearing morons.

 

Yes they are. I'm the arbiter here and you are just wrong for saying that. Over 5,000 Palestinians killed in two weeks. Check yo self

 

For Israel to get away with its genocidal agenda it is using its unrivaled Hasbara propaganda ministry in addition to its complicit MSM.

Thanks,

 

Yes they are. Israel has killed more Palestinians than Hamas has killed Israelis by an order of magnitude already, and this will only increase in the forthcoming weeks.

 

~ Some independent journalists are asking the same question ...

https://rumble.com/v3o6mh8-the-trag...failures-america-first-sentiments-disapp.html

 

Purposefully allowing the slaughter of innocent civilians in order to scare your people into supporting the slaughter of other innocent civilians along with your foe also sounds like terrorism to me.