Tlaib accuses Biden of supporting 'genocide' of Palestinians, warns: 'We will remember in 2024

Indeed ... comparing!
You're free to compare the genocide that the Jewish homeland does with what Russia does in Ukraine.

As for what Russia got to gain: that's not the topic.

 

some special kind of bs here. Since 2005 Palestine has been free of Israel, elected hamas to run their country. They attacked Israel repeatedly then carried out the biggest Jew slaughter since the holocaust. Yesterday Israel was protecting Palestinians try to leave Gaza for hamas terrorist. Palestinians are paying the price for letting hamas run their territory then using them as shields. It sucks but is the price you must pay when u bed with terrorist.

 

I think there are a couple things Israel needs from the US. One is for us to stand close and flex our muscles so as to dissuade other Hamas supporters in the region from being tempted to enter the fray. The other is to not tie Israel's hands and allow them to rout out the bloody Islamic terrorists that are a threat to the free world.

 

Neither of those require direct financial aid to Israel and I'm generally fine with both of those..

 

I'm pretty sure they label the IDF as the terrorists. The label is all in the eye of the beholder. I say both are terrible, and are the result of greed and oppression and bad decisions and leadership on both sides. And the civilians are paying the price for bad leadership. They'll say what Hamas did on October 7th is justice for the thousands of Palestinians killed by the IDF over the years, and will see it as just as justified as the IDF thinks dropping bombs where there are civilians is justified. There is no difference really, except semantics. You can scream as loudly as you want that "Oh, all that matters is that we SAY we are not targeting civilians. The people who have their entire family wiped out by a JDAM don't give two shits what the IDF claims. They are going to be radicalized, and will want to slaughter jews, all because the IDF couldn't be bothered to spare civilians.
It's a never ending cycle, and the actions happening right now are guaranteeing that the suffering will only get much much worse, not better.

 

So what's she going to do when she "remembers in 2024"? Is she going to get mad and campaign for Trump?

 

Hamas killed those Palestinians, make no mistake about it. They attacked and brutally killed 1,700 Jews sing from the river to the sea meaning eliminating Jews, then get the citizens who supported them to shield them from their actions. As a favorite dem says, elections have consequences! The best thing for Palestinians is for Hamas to be eliminated and they’ll have their piece as long as they keep Iran out of their affairs. You support terrorists you die with them, it’s that simple.

 

False equivanencies are very much soviet style Active Measures. This is a tactic employed by many pro Putin useful "people" as well as many interneters with agendas.

As I have clearly stated multiple times, Russia stands to gain the most from what happened on Oct 7th. You have been unable and incapable of disputing this hence you have deflected everywhere else. Logic and facts don't follow your position.

 

Ukraine also commits war crimes yet not a peep from dems.

 

Exactly. Well said

 

It seems to be flying clear over your head. Your ranting about who ends up to gain the most, as if this does even matter.
This topic is about Tlaib accusing Biden to support a Genocide. It's not about Russia.
And we can compare the massacre the Russians are doing with what the Jewish state is doing.
And the result is that the Jewish state has massacred FAR and FAR more civilians already compared to what Russia did in ALL of 2022.
Those are the facts. The Jewish state is a fascist state that massacres civilians in total disregard. The numbers show how it is.
The entire idea of "but they warn people to move out" is just Zionistic propaganda.
As if the convoy of aid workers got warning when the Jewish state massacred them.

The entire idea of the Jewish state to deliberately deprive millions of people from water, food and aid is flat out a genocidal plan.
And here you are deflecting away.

 

And now the desperation forces you to create a strawman to rail against while ignoring reality, Moscow is the #1 autocratic despot that benefits from the Oct 7th crimes. The real question is why you appear compelled to deny this while gaslighting and deflecting to Biden et al. I'd say you are afraid of American might and democratic freedom. Feel free to confirm my analysis.

 

Uuum. No one living today was alive back then and that sliver of land wasn’t highly developed or thriving. It’s not like these people were kicked out of their mansions and the deeds to their land were given away And the Jews didn’t kick anyone out. The people who actually owned the land decided what they wanted to do with THEIR LAND. Plenty of Muslims still live in Israel but NO JEWS can live anywhere else besides Israel because they’ll be MURDERED!!!

You can spout all the BS propaganda you want about violent evil Joooos. I’ll stick to reality thanks. Can you link me to the social media videos IDF soldiers produce showing them raping and murdering innocent people and laughing? No??? Thought so. How many would you like of HAMAS? Never mind. Can’t post them here due to the horrific violent acts, those peaceful “people” want. Because they’re all about just getting along and loving their lives. From the River to the Sea…

 

Insurrection!

 

You're tossing in "strawman" and "gaslighting" as if I did. But I'm not seeing any kind of argument.

 

You not seeing any validity to my post is the richest form of irony and a great display of past posting failures. So, for the future, maybe try to construct forum communications from positions of strength versus emotions or even worse. Vladdie is the weak despot desperate to create world chaos to improve his dreams and desire. Sadly for him, he 's a short timer.

 

Oh really?
The head of the UN called it a war crime to deprive people from water and electricity and the Russians did it.

 

Of course, yet you are here blaming Americans and Israelis, while there are many more players sticking their fingers in the game. Your inability to conceed that Putin/Iran directly benefit form starting the most recent troubles in the ME are what you keep galloping away from....question you are not able to confront is "Why"?

 

I don't think Jews are evil at all. Neither are Palestinians or Muslims. All are wonderful people. Don't confuse the people with the psychos in power in Tel Aviv and in Hamas leadership. I don't see how dropping bombs on civilians is any better than raping, and I doubt very very much that there isn't some of that going on by the IDF anyways. It happens in EVERY war.
Hell, there was a tik tok craze going on of Israelis mocking the suffering of Palestinians. I'm not criticizing them...emotions are running high. But I don't see them as any better or any worse than Palestinians, or Americans. People are just people, regardless of nation or religion. Terrorism is a tactic, nothing more. Western nations have been guilty of tactics just as bad, if not worse.
Dehumanizing a people is the first step in genocide. I see it has been very effective on many people in these forums. Falling for the propaganda like suckers.