Soldier Blasts Biden After Getting Charged for Gear He Left in Afghanistan

Who orchestrated a withdrawal from an insecure airport in Kabul?

Who fled a secure a defendable Bagram airport in the mille of the night?

 

Intelligence was continually informing the President and the President was misreading the intelligence, the debacle was well reported on.

 

So what your saying is that Trump reduced forces just days before Biden took office, and Biden is to blame

It was “reported on” by FAUX News, who BTW, didnt even talk about the RIF of troops until 3 months after the Airport debacle

 

Well that's not true.
The Trump administration made a deal in 2020 with the Taliban to pull out in, top of my head, May 2021. They had a full year to pull out. Biden was able to postpone it with some more months, but eventually the curtain that Trump made to fall had to fall. And this is the best the US military was able to do with getting this heads up. It's pathetic and amateurs could not have done it worse.

 

Got to say, this story is very unclear.
Fellow claims he was ordered to leave his equipment behind. He disobeyed order and took the equipment with him. It then sounds like he did not return his equipment when back in the US (since he is being charged for it). Did he pull a Trump and declare that the stuff was now his since he had been ordered to leave it behind, so he could now do with it as he pleased? I think it is pretty hard to really draw a conclusion from this story, since we are missing some info. Also a little weird that video was pulled from TikTok. For my part, I suspect that there is some administrative snafu here that probably could be fixed relatively painlessly (though I am sure a pain in the ass to have to write to the army and deal with administrative issues). It is sad that today the first reflex is to post a video hoping to go viral and raise some money on the way instead of dealing with the situation like an adult.

 

Biden ordered the immediate withdrawal without considering the logistics of getting soldiers, equipment, and gear home.

He is the Commander-In-Chief.

Now he needs to step up and take responsibility to ensure his piss-poor orders don't result in situations like this.

 

Source this?

 

It would seem to be a "no-brainer." Evacuate via a secure military airport (Bagram) or use an insecure commercial airport in Kabul. Yet the Biden administration opted to flee Bagram in the middle of the night with no notification provided to our allies. Then evacuated via the Bagram airport geting people killed and failing, as you say, to provide logistics for a proper evacuation. The Biden 50 cent army can neither explain nor acknowledge this simple fact. Rather they just bleat about Trump as if their man was not in charge and of course ignoring the actual track record of Biden regarding the Afghan war. Perhaps they forgot that the invasion of Afghanistan was conducted under a resolution that then Senator Biden voted for.

The following is recommended reading for those bleating about Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/opinions/afghanistan-us-withdrawal-biden-bergen/index.html

 

Are you referring to the war he pulled out of because he claimed he didn’t have a choice because of a deal Trump made to end it earlier?

 

Wuuuut?

Republican's started the war.
TRaitor tRump freed the same number of Taliban soldiers as he left in Afghanistan. Making our forces outnumbered ... immediately.
TRaitor tRump set the conditions of withdraw which were impossible to meet.
If it hadn't been for a some panicked Afghani's holding on to a plane that was taken off and one crazy suicide bomber the withdrawal would have been considered a resounding success; which it actually was.

 

How long were you a General in our military that you can make such claims?

 

That is literally made from whole cloth

You should read, as time is linear. Trump withdrew all but 2500 soldiers 5 before Biden even took office.

The fact that we are rehashing this just shows that the right in this country refuses facts

 

An army soldier complain about he had to pay for gear he used in Afghanistan and here you are calling Joe Biden draft dodger and sky is falling

But when --Secretary of defense James Mattis, General Kelly, General Milley, General H. R. McMaster say trump is incompetent to lead the nation, Trump will destroy US democracy, Trump support call them “ deep state”.

We see the double standard. you found a bone and now you want to start a thread and bash Biden.

No one give a f####.

Oh by the way, it is unfortunate but since the Great G.W Bush started war in Afghanistan and Iraq, army families are raising money to buy gear for the soldier. But don’t let the facts get in the way to bash Biden.

 

1. Your comment about Mattis, Kelly, Milley, McMaster is an appear to authority fallacy and a strawman fallacy having nothing to do with this thread.

2. People should always be reminded that Joe Biden, a star athelete dodged the draft during the Vietnam war. One day is a star athelete. The next day too stricken with asthma to serve. I reject your standard of making every thread about Trump and everything about Trump. Trump was not in charge during the Afghan withdrawal. That person was Joe Biden.

3. I won't let the facts get in the way of understanding the that Senator Joe Biden voted for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. President Joe Biden fled a secure Bagram airport in the middle of the night and conducted his evacuation from a commercial and insecureable airport in Kabul getting people killed. A reality you Biden supports will neither acknowledge nor accept.

4. The people that give a ***** are the people trying to achieve Army recruitment goals that can no longer be met, causing serving under Biden is a tough sell. Are you an American? Does it concern you that our Army is understrength under the command of Joe Biden?

 

As I have said majority American really don't care what Biden basher has to say.

And here is the election result since “Twice impeached, P*** grabbing, overthrowing US democracy, nuclear secrets stealing Trump” became POTUS.

• GOP lost special election in 2017.
• GOP lost Mid-term election in 2018.
• GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2019
• GOP Lost Presidential election in 2020.
• GOP lost special election in 2021 and lost 2 Senate positions in GA.
• GOP Lost anti-abortion law in KS AUG 2022.
• GOP lost Senate and two GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.
• GOP lost special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election e.
• GOP Lost special election ( Issue 1) in Ohio in 2023
• GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2023
• GOP lost banning abortion in Ohio in NOV 2023
• GOP lost entire Virginia legislative branch in NOV 2023.

But you can start thread and bash Biden as much as you want. America really sees the double standard, and that's why since the "P*** grabbing, overthrowing US democracy," came to WH, Americans keep voting for DEMS.

 

The withdrawal was based on the agreement between Trump and the Taliban. Biden was honoring that agreement and eventually gave the order for the final pullout. Trump already pulled out some 18000 troops by December 2020, which most was at the airfield and in the provinces.

 

Well, so did Trump with his "flat feet" all of a sudden after he was deferred in College. Biden was also deferred when he was in College. That was the rule in those days. Not exactly draft dodging. Those to did serve, maybe were drafted, but also chose to remain and served their country honorably. Mattis was actually a very good pick by Trump for DoD Secretary. And he receive, more or less, bipartisan support even though there had to be an exception for him in order to be nominated for DoD Secretary. But all of them had one thing in common, public service, whether in the military, in Congress, or serving as a senior bureaucrat in whatever administration they served.

Again, you are failing to understand that army recruiting has been dwindling since the Obama Administration. That fact is incontrovertible and has nothing to do with who served and who did not serve in the military. The last president to serve in the military was GWB. That's it. Most of the GOP candidates other than Trump have not served as well as the DP candidates. But that is really not the point, is it. It is just flabberbash to the bigger argument at hand in this thread that has been totally debunked.

 

FYI. I have said many times that:

1. Trump is a draft dodger and I don't particularly like or trust Trump.

2. I don't buy into the false two party dischotomy.

3. Biden was in charge when the Army was ordered to flee Bagram in the middle of the night in a dishonorable manner. Do you suppose the decision to do this came from someone other than Biden, a man who while Senator voted for the war.

With respect to recruitment we are facing a recruitment crisis now, while Biden is in charge. So is that due to his Covid shot mandate, his wokeness, his cowardly Afghanistan policy, the likelyhood of US troops being used in the Ukraine, obseity among young people? Any thoughts on this question that do not involve Trump? What is Biden doing about the current crisis? Please share you thoughts without a mention of Trump. Is that possible?

Recommendation: Watch the 1rst episode of the Netflix series SPYOPS series. Watch the entire show which is about operation Jawbreaker, the invasion of Afghanistan. At the end you can hear what the CIA teams first sent into Afghanistan have to say about how the war ended and how Biden lost a war that was won. Their thoughts are certainly a lot different that the Dem talking points.

 

OK. Going on the ignore list since all you can post is strawman fallicies and are unable to answer a single question or present a well reasoned argument. Rather you just bleat about a false two party dichotomy that only the low information voter buys into.

 

How could Biden "lose" a 9 year old war, for which tRaitor tRump negotiated the end of. Part of that negotiation released twice as many Taliban solders as tRaitor tRump left in Afghanistan; not counting the thousands of Taliban already active. What is fortunate is not more of our troops were massacred with no force left to cover their rear.

Trump's Deal To End War In Afghanistan Leaves Biden With 'A Terrible Situation'
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/9736...nistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation

 

Either you didn't read or you didn't comprehend. He was ordered to NOT take it, over his own objections.

 

This cannot be a serious post, It is physically impossible.

 

The gear was not left behind

There seems to be a misconception that a soldier was charged because gear was left behind, or because he refused to leave his behind. In actuality, the US military charges soldiers for certain equipment, in addition to the equipment that is payed for by the government. US soldiers are made to pay for certain equipment, and always have been. It has nothing to do with whether or not the equipment was left behind.

 

A misconception? So you are claiming the 82nd Airborne Division soldier who made the video I linked to in post #2 in this thread is a liar? Here is another link to the story. Note that the soldier was told he would not have to pay for the equipment he was ordered to leave behind. Perhaps americanmilitary news is some right wing MAGA site? Or perhaps your comment about "certain equipment" ignoring the actual equipment/situation descripted in the OP is a strawman fallacy. lol

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...-gear-he-was-ordered-to-leave-in-afghanistan/

 

Dems equally started the war. Trump ended it.

Biden pulled out incorrectly and cost lives.