Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Right.....math checks out. lol.
     
  2. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    According to who, an aussy?
     
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    Your posts belong in the conspiracy section.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The last word is that you lost.
     
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    A court can definitely determine that someone has committed fraud without determining whether that person is guilty of the crime of fraud. Happens all the time.

    I don’t consider myself a lefty, but anyway I respect the Constitution and want it applied. It is MAGA that wants to ignore it.

    I’ll make you a deal. I am willing to accept the SCOTUS ruling on all of trump’s cases. Will you?
     
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    I haven't read through this whole thread so it's a good probability that what I'm going to write has already been mentioned but there are several glaring errors in the Colorado decision.

    The first and most egregious error is for the court to have focused on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the exclusion of the other 4 sections and especially section 5. Section 5 SPECIFICALLY vests Congress, not the states, with the power to enforce the provisions of the Amendment. The court, if they stopped for one second to consider the Amendment as a whole, should have kicked this whole case out.

    The second issue is that the court went to the dictionary to define "insurrection". That was unnecessary and, perhaps intentionally, divested the term from the context in which it was used. "Insurrection" is used in both sections 3 and 4 of the Amendment. In both sections the clear intent was to indicate the Civil War. That is especially the case in section 4 where they are talking about how to pay for the war. Furthermore, "Rebellion", a term used in conjunction with "insurrection" in sections 3 and 4, is also used in section 2 and, again, CLEARLY refers to the Civil War.

    As used in the 14th Amendment the term "insurrection" OBVIOUSLY means a significant military action against the government, not some 4 hour riot.

    I'll leave the asinine arguments related to "engaged in" and Brandenberg alone but the "analysis" related to those matters was stunning.
     
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    You're offended that he told people they could protest the things they felt were wrong and destroying their rights.
    Gotcha.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you make it a conspiracy to reveal a conspiracy? Or point to the probability of one?
    Which page of the left's manifesto is that on?
     
  9. Noone

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    It's not a matter of figuring anything out. The Colorado Supreme Court isn't based on "criminality", which the 14th Amendment does NOT require.

    "Are Jury Trials Not Always Guaranteed?
    A jury trial is not always guaranteed. The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution does guarantee the right to a trial by jury trial in all criminal prosecutions."

    The decision to keep tRaitor tRump off the ballot was neither "criminal or a prosecution".
     
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    FALSE
    Really? Lets take a look
    Now magically you thought it was about gun laws on books? Laughable really

    You didn't refer to gun laws on the books, you directly refuted the fact that the second has never been changed.
    So if you will knowingly falsify your own claims, its certain you will falsify others.

    I actually posted it for you to read and you still got it wrong. lol
    Just like your post above about the 2nd

    Nope, you can't
    But that does show you don't have any idea what your talking about and the word shall is covered in every constitutional class.
    Guess you missed those days huh

    Its not my assignment. Try again

    Yet you never heard of the used of shall as a legal term?
    Sorry, just another made up claim

    I have to admit, I have never actually see a poster watch a video of the actual ruling, them claim he never said it.
    So now federal judges stating someone is acquitted of insurrection, doesn't mean they are acquitted on insurrection because all they can do is remove him from office.
    When you have to reach this far into the bucket of desperation, its over dude. Move on

    Kind of like, Hey I studied the Constitution in school but I never heard why they used the word shall before.
    You outed your own self on that one.

    Nope, I never said that but if you feel like I did, you could always prove it
    But you won't

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    I think attacking the Capitol, ******** on the floors and pissing on the walls went beyond protesting wrongs that they felt were destroying their rights. :wtf:
     
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    What you're the only one that can throw Hitler out there? You think Hitler didn't use fictious laws to keep his political opponents from opposing. Hell, he used these tactics to justify shooting them in the head, will this be the next move by the far left? Face the facts, you are supporting keeping political opponents from running because of a crime they haven't been charged nor convicted of. Your feelz are your justification and its exactly how Hitler justified his persecution. I can't stand Trump but you lefties have overtaken my disdain for Trump by miles. You literally are the biggest threat to democracy, not China, not Russia, the far left, soley based on actions like this. You guys also win the dumb dumb award for 2024, you have successfully made Trump a political martyr and have all but guaranteed his win against brain dead joe, congrats!
     
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    Expect this to go like your 3 months of Kyle Rittenhouse conviction guarantees and legal insights.
     
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    Lol, got quotes
     
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    I believe this is what we call Game, Set, Match.
     
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    Wuuut, quote me on Rittenhouse. I never participated in those threads much, certainly not for 3 months. Just more of your disingenuous posting.
     
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    Of course you do. It's a disingenuous post that only included parts of my original post. Kinda like you're know to do.
     
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  19. Hey Now

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    BAMMMMMM!!!
     
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    Truth is fundamental to the left's philosophy, the real issue with non-hack rightists is that different things are valued, and the notion of fairness is different. It is incredible that a rightist would talk about honor (and deception!) when Trump is their guy. Perspectives like this speak to the power of right-wing propaganda to warp the minds of half the country.

    Bloviating aside, your post is otherwise too vague to even address.
     
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    Don't even try, Your post are there for everyone to see.
    All I did was remove the gibberish to get to the actual issues that you tried to cover up with classic media regurgitations.
     
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    Maybe I have you confused, if so sorry, I'll have to go check....The other take stands.
     
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    Oh, I will more than try. You removed the main quote and link that proved you wrong, it wasn't from "media" it was "Constitution Annotated from Congress.gov".

    It takes time but I enjoy showing your dis-ingenuousness for what it is.
     
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    Don't you think that a bit disingenuous when most post from the right are not in defense of Trump, but calling out the lefts gibberish and twisting of laws, words, speech's, and lets not forget the Russia Russia Russia hoax.

    And whats on the menu this week, The lefts reimagining of the 14th amendment. Yet if someone on the right corrects them, magically they are defending Trump. And you know this.
    Do I have to take a 30 day example of threads to prove not one thread can get by without a Trump regurgitation?

    I have never even seen a post of a Republican claiming they admire Trump in any way. I personally can't stand the guy but his policies spoke for themselves.

    So maybe a bit more reflection before you start with the whole Perspectives like this speak to the power of right-wing propaganda.
    You couldn't find a single thread without a left wing Trump propaganda post if your life depended on it.
     
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    Couldn't the same be said of the Biden Family foreign government check cashing machine for no services? You see most understand that the majority politicians can't spell "honor" but most also understand that somehow, some way, the left seems to think only Trump should be persecuted to the fullest based on feels. First you claimed he was a Russian colluder, that fell apart so the next desperate attempt claimed he tried to interfere in an election by asking Lewinski to "look into it" when discussing the Biden's crooked Burisma dealings in a private phone call. Now throwing him out of an election based on feels isn't trying to influence an election? You call that HONOR? Sorry doesn't pass the smell test with most but carry on, this one is a joke and will be overturned but I am pissed you made him a political martyr, dumbest move ever made by the lefties.
     

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