Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

This seems to dispute that:
How many immigrants have been deported in 2023?
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported more than 142,000 immigrants in fiscal year 2023, nearly double the number from the year before, as the Biden administration ramped up enforcement to stem illegal border crossings, according to the agency's annual report, published Friday.Dec 29, 2023

 

Deportation is different than expulsion. There were over a million expulsions in 2022. I provided the link to the CBP data

 

I'm totally convinced by the "mountain of evidence" here. The entire government is out to get Trump (who isn't fat and dopey looking, but youthful and muscular with a beautiful head of hair) and arrested that poor brave patriot for no reason!

I can't wait to vote for Trump 10 times!

 

Splain me this difference?

 

Like I said, the link posted explains how HR2 is problematic.

 

"No perfect solution" is a funny way of saying you prefer the one who that keeps rape victims with their abusers and children locked up with adults in detention facilities where more atrocities can fall upon them.

A "better" solution is verifying familial relationships and keeping children with their families and identifying coyotes and cartel thugs for prosecution, not releasing them with the children they're raping and allowing them to keep victimizing more children in the same way. We know this undoubtedly results in more rapes and sexual violence. But, people shamelessly turn the other cheak to further their political agenda while pretending their position is virtuous. It's disgusting.

The point of open borders policies is to keep this going as much as possible. No accountability for the cartels, no justice for the victims. Just pack em up, move them along, and forget about them. No time to follow up, no time to verify their safety. No caring about them or the process whatsoever. The goal is to continue the cartel's human smuggling pipeline unimpeded. Spare us to the fake virtue signaling. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

 

Your 'better' is debatable. Everyone thinks they got the 'perfect' solution. I could go on as to why our bill is better but it's really beside the point. We have a bipartisan bill, and we are sure that if it were put on the House floor, it would pass, but Johnson won't allow it. One guy decides for America.

Anyway, the point is, in politics, no one gets all of what they want.

Do you understand?

Your characterizations are spin and I'm sure as hell not going to take your word for anything.

Life is a 2 way street. No dem voted for HR2, that means it's DOA at the senate.

The Senate bill was led by a repub, who declared that it's a very conservative bill. I believe even Graham (or one of the conservatives) said he's never seen such a conservative bill be allowed by Dems.

If the House won't vote for it, the border issue is now on Republicans.

Simple, really.

Speaker Johnson's 'my way or the high way' attitude never in history has been a successful path to governance, and clearly, he doesn't have a clue on how to govern.

 

How do you expel them without deporting them?

 

Many of those illegals are dropping anchor babies, which is the first link in chain migration.
"All persons with the last name Gomez are free to take their piece of america at their convenience."
Sure. Take our country. We don't need it.

 

Deportation involves someone who is already in the country, and the courts order him/her to be removed, while expulsion happens right at the border with no need for court involvement. It was done under Title-42.

The bill, which was rejected in the House, would have made the expulsion part a permanent routine process at the border, but it was not what they wanted.

 

Its not "my expulsion", or word games, or whatever works for me. It's the word they use when they refer to the people they turn back without any further process, applications, or courts. Expulsion is immediate, while deportation requires the courts. I provided the link for you from CBP web page, where they used that exact word.

If I used any other words, then it would become word-games, which seems to be what you want.

 

Expulsion is a legal order to leave the country but may or may not result in people leaving. Remember those over stayed visas? Those people may be expelled but unless they are located and physically removed they would just count as an expelled alien but not deported. Pretty tricky.

1 Expulsions and deportations are a State’s unilateral acts of ordering a person to leave its territory and, if necessary, of forcefully removing him or her. The terminology used at the domestic or international level is not uniform but there is a clear tendency to call expulsion the legal order to leave the territory of a State, and deportation the actual implementation of such order in cases where the person concerned does not follow it voluntarily. The International Law Commission (ILC) defines expulsion not only as ‘a formal act’ but also ‘conduct attributable...

 

It means they are returned immediately. You don't get to stay if you are expulsed.

It was used when Title-42 was still in effect, and since the House refused to make it permanent, they are not doing it at this time

 

No it doesn't. It means there is a legal order for them to leave, sort of like a warrant, but enforcing it will mean knowing where they are. Still, you have expelled them so they get counted but are still here.

 

No, you are mistaken, but whatever get you through the night/ I won't get into endless loops of repetitions with you. I provided the stats of Title-42 Expulsions, but you are free to believe the CBS made it up.

 

Expulsion is an order, deportation is the act of enforcing it. They didn't make it up but it can be used to say what you like. 2 mil expulsions doesn't mean 2 million deported. I copied and pasted for you but you do as you like.

 

To whom is might concern

What is Title-42 Expulsion? Its a disease control mechanism, where people are prevented from entering the country during time of pandemics. In US it was used to immediately expel millions of people trying to get in 2020 - May 2023.

Title 42 of the United States Code, Chapter 6A, Subchapter II, Part G, Section 265 states:[11]
§265. "Suspension of entries and imports from designated places to prevent spread of communicable diseases
Whenever the Surgeon General determines that by reason of the existence of any communicable disease in a foreign country there is serious danger of the introduction of such disease into the United States, and that this danger is so increased by the introduction of persons or property from such country that a suspension of the right to introduce such persons and property is required in the interest of the public health, the Surgeon General, in accordance with regulations approved by the President, shall have the power to prohibit, in whole or in part, the introduction of persons and property from such countries or places as he shall designate in order to avert such danger, and for such period of time as he may deem necessary for such purpose." (July 1, 1944, ch. 373, title III, §362, 58 Stat. 704.)

In March 2020, the Center for Disease Control under the Trump administration issued a public health order allowing for the rapid expulsion of unauthorized border crossers and asylum seekers citing COVID-19 concerns. As it is considered an "expulsion" rather than a "deportation", the migrants are not afforded the right to make a case to stay in the U.S. before an immigration judge. Most migrants subject to Title 42 measures are returned to Mexico within hours.

 

Title 42, a COVID-19 public health restriction affecting migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, expired on May 11, 2023, when the public health emergency for COVID-19 was lifted.

 

And I said millions were expulsed under Title-42, and I posted a link showing the exact stats. I also said when it started and when it expired and that the House rejected the bill which would have given the CBP the same authority without any health association. Duh

 

You're basing your argument on a fluid term that may ot answer the real question of how many and who is coming to live with us.

 

Did you just make that up?
Or likely got it from some fake news source?

Post some facts to see how accurate that statement is.

 

Well... here we sit in Colorado, with our ballots in our hands. Does anybody know if anybody at the Supreme Court is back at work yet after the "holiday"? What the hell are they WAITING for -- either rule that states have the right to strike someone from a ballot who has committed an "insurrection", or, announce that for anybody to call the 'Jan 6 'event an "insurrection" is ridiculous and overreach to an exotic degree, and so Trump can stay on it.

Me? I don't really give a **** anymore. I don't want either Trump or that decayed, demented thing we have in the White House right now to be elected in November. **** it! NOBODY represents me... and nobody really has since Ronald Reagan....