‘Poisoning the blood of our country’: Trump delivers caustic attack on immigrants

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  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Biden is the one that publicly shamed large swaths of American citizens. He said we were unpatriotic for not sharing his same allegiance to a corporation like Pfizer.

    Fascists do that.
     
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    That is absolutely false.
     
  3. WillReadmore

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    Remember that it is Republicans who are refusing the $14B for border security.

    And, it is Biden who has repeatedly asked congress to allocate dollars for that.
     
  4. hawgsalot

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    LOL so Biden couldn't get his democrat house and Senate to pass his immigration plan his first two years ?
     
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  5. WillReadmore

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    That's not an excuse. Biden has been pushing for more. And the offer agreed by the House and Senate is for $14B.

    Now, we have the crazy fringe in the House trying to upset that agreement, of course spending there time on issues such as replacing the House Speaker ... again and again.

    Also, let's remember that Trump has stated that he wants an economic collapse between now and November.

    Of course, House Republicans could honor that request by refusing to address our financial commitments ... again and again.
     
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    Interesting. Do you have a video of that?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Are you denying he 300,000 that crossed last month alone yes or no? Are you denying that the crisis is nit just at the border anymore but across the country? Are you asserting there is nothing wrong with our current situation?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    You think these MILLIONS are working now?
     
  9. Alwayssa

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    Blues, fake ids are not that common. I have seen my share with some quite good. It is popularized by the movies and TV shows, but fake IDs are no longer an issue because of the REAL ID Act in place.

    That being said, illegal aliens have been here for decades, since 1870s when we created the term to begin with. But this not an invasion. They are desperate, seeking work mostly, in an immigration system that is draconian, expensive, and very time-consuming. Want to hire a foreign worker, the normal process can take months, several in fact. Add another $2500 to the mix, and the time frame might get cut in half for expedited processing. But the immigration system does not work for farmers, ranchers, restaurant owners, etc who cannot afford those expensive fees for their businesses. That is why some businesses and people don't care. So, a person who is moving several apartment, a construction site needs several hands to dig ditiches, a restaurant needs a bus boy or girl, a upper middle class person needs to hire a personal maid, and the list goes on with each of them wanting to get the person as quickly as possible, like yesterday and they don't care if they are legal or illegal, just good at what they will do and follow instructions. What you will see is that it will take more time, more money to clean debris in natural disaster areas because companies can't find work, and people are not forced to work in this country by the government or anyone else. It is a choice. That is what you don't understand
     
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    that 300k is encounters at the border which means that they were med by CBP, border patrol. Now, what happened to them remains to be seen. Most of them were illegal because they were initially denied, but they insisted on fillng a legal process called asylum. By law, we must accept, and by law, we must allow them to enter. The EO does not meet with the law, as intended by Congress. It is popular for conservatives because to you, its a game, nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  11. WillReadmore

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    Our current situation is not helped by Trump declaring that the ethnicities of those coming here is polluting "OUR" blood.

    That is monumentally racist, and applies to a very large population of US citizens

    Now we have Trump using Halley's full first name as a racist dog whistle, when during his presidency he chose her as a US ambassador.

    Racism has no place in working out the issues of immigration.
     
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    I asked a question first, and that is to prove a point.
    I am waiting, and so not responding to some kind of trolling interrogation.
     
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    How about you go make an argument and source it, instead demanding that I need to prove your point. Because that's the world upside down.
     
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  14. Bluesguy

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    How about DEBATING THE ISSUE instead of some specious point making?

    You said

    AGAIN do you believe there are jobs for all these ILLEGAL immigrants just waiting to be filled? How long do you think we can sustain 300,000 a month like in December?
     
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    My favorite thing about this "debate" is hearing Trump supporters parrot the same things that were said about their own ancestors.
     
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    But Trumps grandparents didn't poison the blood of the country ?

    JFC
     
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  17. Arkanis

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    His wife....

    Who, strangely enough, obtained his citizenship in record time.
     
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    Color me SHOCKED !!!
     
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  19. Bluesguy

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    Of course it does if it finally wakes up the people on the left who live in denial, there is nothing races the people coming in illegally are of ALL races and from almost ALL countries. Show me where Trump has said prevent everyone but the white people.

    Are you denying this crisis and agree to stipulate we CANNOT allow this to continue PERIOD?
     
  20. WillReadmore

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    No, we benefit from immigration. Immigration is helping us maintain a steady population, as our birth rate is below what will cause us to maintain our population.

    Immigration helps us gather capabilities developed all over the world.

    Immigration is the proof of our promise to refugees who have escaped serious danger.

    When Trump says "poison our blood" the specific meaning is that foreign blood is so toxic that we can't allow it into our country because intermarriage will bring down America.

    It is about the most racist statement a person could possibly make.

    His racism is NOT TOLERABLE in America and can not possibly help us move toward a reasonable immigration policy.

    Starting from blatant hatred is NEVER a means of solving problems.
     
  21. Steve N

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    Weren't they supposed to lower our crime rate?

    String of retail thefts, burglaries by migrants plaguing Chicago suburb: authorities

    A Chicago suburb has been battered by a string of recent crimes committed by migrants who live in or near the Windy City.

    From Oct. 23 to Jan. 17, a total of 47 migrants were arrested in Oak Brook, Illinois, mostly for alleged property crimes, according to Brian Strockis, the chief of police for the Oak Brook Police Department.

    The latest incident involved an Ecuadorian migrant who resides in Chicago and is accused of stealing more than $3,000 worth of merchandise from retail stores and evading Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) supervision by cutting off his electronic monitoring device.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...aguing-chicago-suburb-authorities/ar-BB1gZ7ff
     
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    "Poisoning the blood of our country."

    Neither Trump nor anyone else can get more racist than that.

    And, your comments here are totally irrelevant to that charge by Trump.

    Why are you defending Trump's profoundly racist statement?
     
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    Blah blah blah to the left everything is racist and the latest and greatest racist they come up with 'can get more racist than that.'
     
  24. WillReadmore

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    Trump's statement is absolutely, indefensibly racist.
     

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