Satanic Invocation Opens County Commission Meeting in Nevada

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  1. Think for myself

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    You're so wrong, it's almost comical.

    I do not "believe that a god doesn't exist the same way religious people believe one does exist." I prefer knowledge to belief, and as there is no actual knowledge of the existence of a deity, then there isn't one. Atheism is the exact opposite of belief.

    For your edification:

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/12/06/10-facts-about-atheists/#:~:text=2 The literal definition of,spiritual force of any kind.

    Where it states that "roughly one-in-five self-described atheists (18%) say they do believe in some kind of higher power" ... those are agnostics, not atheists.

    ag·nos·tic noun
    a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

    atheist noun
    a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods.

    IMO, today's gods are no more real than those of ancient Greece or Rome. Myths, fairy stories, and some very tall tales.
     
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    It isn't.
     
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    I am objectively correct.

    Atheism is equal to saying NO theism. NO god.

    It is not a belief that entertains the possibility. It plainly believes that gods do not exist. This is equally as foolish to believe, as beliving a god does exist.

    Like it or not, athiests are cut of the same cloth as thiests.

    Agnostic is what you are referring to.

    And you have proven my point so well for me. Athiests want desperately to be different than theists, and yet are cut exactly of the same cloth.
     
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    It objectively is, even if you refuse to see it. Which is fine, its ok for you to be wrong. But you very much are wrong.
     
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    Zen Buddhism does that. Tibetian Buddism prays to Buddha. They have statues of Buddha in India, Thailand, tibet, China, etc. And yes, the monks pray to him on a constant basis.

    The key to Buddhism is enlightenment. Enlightenment is a works-based religious philosophy. How they achieve that depends on which lineage one uses within Buddhism. Western Zen Buddhism is different from Chinese Zen Buddhism for instance. Chinese Zen buddhaism is merged with the Taoist philosophy, which also has multiple divine beings, among other things in its religious philosophy. But the reality is that most Buddhists in the East do "pray" to Buddha or some other divine being in one way or the other. Buddha is often asked or prayed for guidance through rituals, meditation, and so forth. But it is there.
     
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    Some Tibetans do. The vast majority of other Buddhists do NOT pray to Buddha, and no, that isn't what the statues are for.

    You are literally claiming to know more about Buddhism than Buddhists do.
     
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    Most people know what the word atheist means in this forum. The issue, however, is how one defines religion. there is an argument that religion does not necessarily have to include a supernatural force or supreme being or beings. Thus, Atheism, as a practice or a set of beliefs is based on the word faith. Faith can be either incarnate or carnate. We use faith all the time, such as faith that the other drivers on the highway have their DLs, obey and observe the road signs, conditions, and traffic, and so forth. It is the set of beliefs that are what he hopes for and what we don't see. Thus religion can be defined as a set of organized beliefs, practices, and systems that can relate to either the belief and worship of a controlling force which can include man or a supernatural being. Remember in our world history men have become gods. Caesar was one such religion.
     
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    you might want to ask yourself why it is there, to begin with.

    Never said that Yardmeat. Again, try to debate the topic, not the person.
     
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    I have highlighted the only true words in you post.
     
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    Everything I said there is true.
     
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    It's gone international:
     
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    Who cares? Don't Satanists have 1st Amendment rights? In my opinion, their rites and ceremonies are just as fanciful as any other religion's, and no religious rites should be allowed in public buildings or at government functions.

    Which bothers you more: that they believe things that you find ridiculous or abhorrent? Or that they were allowed to express those beliefs in a public, government setting, just as Christians do?
     
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    Yes, you did say that. Buddhists will tell you for hours on end that they do not worship Buddha and do not revere Buddha as a god. But you claim to know more about Buddhism than Buddhists do. You made that claim, not me. If you want to admit you were making **** up and wish to ditch your claim, then go for it. If you didn't think it was topical, then you shouldn't have made that claim. Again, practicing Buddhist of several years here. Please stop misrepresenting the religion. It isn't hard. Start by no longer spreading the lie that Buddhists worship the Buddha and consider him a God. Easy peasy. Why pretend this pains you?
     
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