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Its extremely similar to a religion. As much as atheists want to be different, they are cut of hte same cloth as religious people.

 

Well, reality and I disagree, but have fun with that.

 

You can disagree but reality isn't on your side. I'm objectively correct.

 

Then you either don't know what the word "atheism" means or what the word "religion" means. Or you are engaging in some rather extreme artistic license to redefine the words. Like people who think baseball is a "religion." I guess not playing golf is just as much of a hobby as playing golf is in your world.

 

Clearly you don't know what you are referencing. Atheists aren't all that different from religious people. This is a reality. You don't have to like it but it remain true.

 

In the sense that they are both humans? Sure. They are the same species. That doesn't make atheism a religion. Nor does the existence of atheistic religions like Buddhism or Satanism make atheism a religion.

 

If you change the word religion to anything else it shows how completely ignorant the argument is

If we banned all sports symbols would that mean we are now a sports team?

Asking for our public places paid for by all taxpayers to be welcoming to all tax payers by being completely neutral on spiritual issues shouldn’t be that heavy of an ask. But none of them will see it until we start having Muslim or Satanic prayer all over the nation.

 

I aways break par the first way....

 

Well it is simply not true. Absence of the belief in the supernatural is not the same as belief in the supernatural.

 

False, its absolutely true.

Its not absence of belief.

You believe one doesn't exist. They believe one does. Fact is no one knows. So like I said, athiests are cut of hte same cloth as religious people. COnvinced somethign is true when the reality is no one knows.

 

You telling me what I believe? Seems presumptuous.

 

That's exactly what atheists believe. And I am correct.

 

The major problem that the “atheism is a religion” crowd has is that they equate the absence of belief in deities with the belief in same. The usual faulty argument they trot out is “ well, you say that a god doesn’t exist and I say it does”. This grossly misrepresents the atheist position (well, for the majority of us anyway).
As an atheist, I do NOT say definitively that a god/s does not exist. I simply say that I do not agree with the theist’s claim that one DOES exist. See the difference…?

 

False. That's called being agnostic. If you are an atheist then you believe one doesnt exist. If you wish to adapt and improve and change your position then that's on you. But atheists are cut of the same cloth as religious people. It's no more or less ignorant to say one does vs doesnt.

 

Mate, if you haven’t worked it out yet, I have you generally on ignore. But I’ve reconnected here just to put your stupid argument in its place. ( please note mods: I say that the ARGUMENT is stupid, not the arguer …)

1. You don’t understand what ‘agnostic’ means. It is a statement about KNOWLEDGE, not belief.
2. A-theism simply means ‘not theism’, ie, NOT A BELIEF IN A GOD OR GODS.

Let me give an example that even the most cognitively challenged would understand…

If you claim to me that you have $10 000 in your pocket and I reply that I don’t believe your claim, am I saying that your claim is untrue? No, I am simply saying that I don’t believe it until I see evidence.

So, as an atheist, I do NOT say, as you accuse that ‘there is NOT a god or gods’. What I DO say is that I do not believe in any of them until evidence is produced to change my belief.

Now, back to the relative peace of not having to read your drivel…

 

I don't care if you claim to have me on ignore, the overly emotional go back and forth on that regularly as is the case here. I'm objectively correct.

You not only didn't put my argument in its place you further demonstrated my point. Atheists are soo desperate to be different and absolutely hate the reality they are no different than religious people. They hate hearing it, and hate that they actually know it themselves.

It's absolutely a statement about belief, knowledge is simply a word you chose. Knowledge and belief are almost always the same as everything we think we know is incomplete and therefore could be wrong to varying degrees. So perhaps you should do more research.

Atheism is saying no theism. No God.

So yes, believing there are no gods or a God is just as ignorant as believing there is. Atheists are cut of the same cloth as religious people. Your example is not accurate nor relevant. Atheism is the believe there is no God. It's not absent the belief there is one. It's the same as saying no theism. No God.

Agnostic is open to the possibility. That's the most appropriate position.

But atheists are no different than religious people. And we both know yiu aren't actually ignoring me, you just say you do lol.

 

You are free to practice your religion, but you are not free to use it as a cudgel, which is what evangelicals have been doing.

You are free to verbally attack and ridicule my atheism, but remember that ridicule is a two way street.

 

If there is no God, how is it faith-based? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.

 

The snark isn't going away:

 

Bullshit. And why the "lol"? That sounds smug to me.

Atheists don't have places of worship. We have no rites or ceremonies. We don't proselytize. We consider all religious beliefs to be equally nonsensical.

All major religions have some commonalities, but most boil down to claims of the following:

1. My faith is the one true faith.

2. My church is the one true church.

3. My god is the one true god.

They can't all be right, so if we simply apply Occam's Razor, where the simplest answer tends to be the correct answer, they are all wrong.

Most atheist don't tend to waste much time trying to convert people away from their faith. You be you, but please don't think that because of your beliefs, you have a stronger moral compass than those who believe otherwise, or than those who do not believe, period.

 

It’s not, you’re not

 

It is, and I am.

 

Its not bullshit at all. Its the truth.

They dont need a place to worship, they believe that a god doesn't exist the same way religious people believe one does exist. This is equally nonsensical.

Atheists wear their atheism on their sleeve in the same way religious people do. They enjoy spreading their atheism the same way religous people like to spread their religion.

Athiests and religious people are literally cut of hte same cloth.

 

I don’t think any of that is true

 

You can be wrong. Thats ok. I dont mind.