Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

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  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. Healthy disagreement is very much an integral part of democracy. But when division becomes destructive and creates animosity , that is unhealthy. Seeds of division from external sources is definitely counter productive.
     
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    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    How do you know Trump or Jorden are lyng?? You guessed it. ( their lips are moving ;-) That is the only barometer you need ;-)
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin just endorsed Biden in the Tucker Interview. Now more fake news is to call Trump a "proven criminal". If you are male, straight and white and are a proven criminal.....you go to jail. Guess what? Trump is not in jail.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Way to dismiss the opposition!:applause: Now let's watch what happens.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I didn't bother to look at your original - I could tell it was a Photoshop on my own. First, because Ali Khameinei's butt-boy Barack never held a personal meeting with his master in the "Death to America!" crowd and secondly because I'm a communications professional who has thirty years of experience working in Photoshop.

    I don't need excuses. Stop making sh*t up to cover your dishonest claims.

    Of course! It's a humorous depiction of Ovomit's real life relationship with his masters in Tehran, but as I pointed out, he should have been facing the other way.

    Well, Putin endorsed Biden, so if anything it will be the first instinct of many people on your side.

    As for what your thread is about, Demokrats have already made this the dirtiest campaign in our history, and you're playing your part.
     
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    That's going to happen. No way around it.
     
  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Note what I actually stated:

    Biden has given Putin every reason to endorse him, from the weakness that encouraged him to invade Ukraine in 2022 to his abject mental incompetence to his shutting down new LNG export terminals. He's the gift that keeps on giving Russia everything it wants.

    And our enemies in Iran and China, for that matter....
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The relationship you describe is just another liberal fairytale...lol
     
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    Oh right…forgot about all those innocent folks.
     
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    I can make an even longer list, a much scarier list, of reasons why Putin would absolutely love for Trump to win. Do you really want to go there?
     
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    Sorry, your ilk had its time in the media spotlight and was found to provide so much fake news, claims, and propaganda, that your number 1 news provider for years (CNN) is ranked below The Cartoon Channel and Nickelodeon in viewership.
    Your Russia Russia Russia conspiracy theories,
    the Trump computers all linked to Moscow,
    the Trump is a planted Russian spy,
    the insurrection propaganda,
    the Trump fought with the Secret Service to commandeer the presidential limo,
    the cop was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher,
    were all exposed for what they are.

    Fabricated garbage by fake leftist parrots,

    Nobody is buying what your selling anymore.
     
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    That isn't the very same Sminov that Wray testified too stating he refused to release the 1024 on Smirnov publicly because he claimed it would jeopardize the safety of a confidential human source who he claimed was invaluable to the FBI,

    Then When asked by the committee about their confidence in their confidential human source, Wray testified to the committee the confidential human source was credible and trusted, had worked with the FBI for over a decade, and had been paid six figures.
     
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    Yes, the ones who had no weapons, wore funny hats and yelled a lot, and made Scary Faces that made Pelosi wet herself n stuff, and mostly did pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, Democrats were burning down cities and looting stores all across the country.
     
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    Would that include killing hundreds of Russians in Syria, where Putin kept his mouth shut.
    or
    Would it be Trump shutting down Putins pipeline to Germany
    or
    Would it be Trump being the first president in history to give lethal weapons to Ukraine to kill more Russians
    or
    Would it be Putin waiting for Trump to leave office before attacking Ukraine
    or
    Would it be deporting Russian Oligarchs
    or
    Would it be condemning Russia’s illegal actions in Crimea
    or
    Would it be Trump threatening to withdrawal from the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty in 60 days if Russia did not return to compliance.
    or
    Would it be 48 Russian intelligence officers expelled from the Russian embassy in Washington, and the Russian consulate in Seattle ordered to close, in response to the Skripal poisoning in the United Kingdom

    Are these reasons Putin would love Trump so much?
     
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    And smashed in windows and doors and broke into offices and stole items and assaulted officers. All things that are against the law. You must not have seen any of the videos or pictures from that day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Exactly! That's precisely the type of fake news that the Russians have in store to fool the gullible.
     
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    And you gave it a "like".

    My point is that it's a good idea, especially if you're a Trump supporter, to hold off publishing and reacting positively to this fake propaganda, unless you're ok with being tied to the deceit.

    Hah! That's hilarious! You just did it again: you fell for Russian fake propaganda.

    Not a good thing to do especially in a thread about fake Russian propaganda.

    You have made my original point. And you came through with being one of the first to propagate it.
     
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    The denial , the inversion of truth, the distortion of reality here- is all on your side, and you are doing one hell of a pushing it in the face of massive evidence it is BS. Unbelievable.
     
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    How splendidly convenient for you!
     
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    Difference is, we have REAL evidence, court rulings, documents, special council investigations (all of them by Trump appointees)... And all you have is... projection.

    Oh... and a "star" whistleblower who, it turned out, was planted by Putin.
     
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    VERY convenient. I can always count on you to make my point for me....
     
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    Sadly- no. In the minds of weak or corrupt people- Where truth exists, it is included to justify a lie. Where it doesn't exist, fake truth is manufactured as needed. Threats of destroying people lives will usually cause people to do whatever they must to survive; so it becomes an acceptable way to produce illusions. It takes great courage to resist evil once it is empowered. It takes at least some courage to even acknowledge truth to yourself once you have bought into supporting the choreographed hate that has been the tool of corrupt politicians.

    When a person selects the truth they can use and rejects that which they can't, they are seeking evidence to back up a conclusion they contrived in advance. Anyone with a respectable personal moral
    standards and self respect knows that is a despicable act. It is also a choice, and a choice that defines the person's character. Supporting what's right comes down to having the vision, the capacity to see; the morals to tell you what's right, and the courage to stand up for it.

    I do not think you are blind.
     
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    The example I included in the OP is not in the minds of people. That and many like it are all over the Internet. And in this forum. And the people who believe them tend overwhelmingly to be on the MAGA side. There is much evidence of this. People who believed the Big Lie, people who believed propaganda about Biden (before the true mission of the Russian spy was uncovered), people who repeat what Trump says for the ONLY reason that Trump says it. They are all on one side.

    The right keeps getting caught fabricating these things. Again and again.... This is why I can give all these examples, and you can give NONE.

    Have YOU had the courage to stand up to the lies on your side that I mention above?

    Please DO provide a link.

    Thank you. I sincerely wish that I could say the same about you. And I will if you provide the link I requested. If not then... well.... this is where we are.
     
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    LOL! And the RW is not trying to destroy people's lives? Hillary, Obama, Biden, Hunter, James Biden, Willis, Engoron, Smith, Cheney, Freeman etc come to mind. Whoever dares to make the great Trump look bad will face the unrelenting attacks of RW media and their lackeys in Congress.

    You call others blind, but your are so deeply immersed in the RW media echo chamber that you can't open your own eyes.

    BTW: I am not saying that the Dems don't do it. They are guilty as well. That's why we need reform to favor moderate candidates, rather than the extremists who are favored by the current primary system. We need to get away from the system where the best way to win is to make the opponent look as bad as possible. People need to start running on fact and policies, instead of attacks, lies and smears. I guess one can still dream.....
     
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