Is Jesus divine?

... On the other hand I have been studying the paranormal and parapsychology since the early 1970's and I have taken 120 online courses by
near death experiencer Kevin Zadai Th. D. and there is one claim that he has made that can fairly easily be proven or not?

He claims that he wrote IQ tests before his 1992 near death experience and scored around 106 IQ......

he claims that he tested his IQ again after his brush with death and scored IQ 159... which is well up there in the genius range, [above IQ 140]!

His demonstration of this claim would be of interest to you would it not?

 

Who is your Israel?

 

Would that not mean different rules apply in different areas?

 

My "Israel" includes even Gentiles who were Jewish in a past life......
which means that my definition of "Israel" is getting awfully close to all eight billion of us on this third rock at this time???????

A high percentage of people who identify as "Jewish" seem to be unaware of the teachings about The Gilgul Cycle of Judaism..... or for that matter... the rather fascinating Dr. Ian Stevenson research.


The Dr. Ian Stevenson research... did he prove reincarnation?

But.... I am not saying that the nation of Israel should accept applications for Israeli citizenship based primarily on this very open and broad criteria..... the "Jewish nation" has very little choice but to be rather selective in who they give citizenship to!



AFTERLIFE
What Judaism Says About Reincarnation
The notion that souls can be reborn after death figures prominently in Jewish mysticism.

BY RABBI BENJAMIN RESNICK

 

Gods people.

 

So Jesus is the "Word" (in my mind that is every expression of God). He did say He would send us a teacher, the Holy Spirit. The Bible has been preserved and protected against all odds and counterfeits. The Holy Spirit has made men and women accountable to do His work in it's preservation. You see tens of thousands of Gospels, I see one. To me there is one label....."the Body and Bride of Christ". There is no other label I can think of. I know of people all around the world that are miraculously united in that Body. The term Christian is derived from the Greek "little Christ". It was a label given to believers by others.Others have termed them as "Followers of the Word or Way." So beyond all the organizations humans have labeled, there are those that descr ibe themselves as His Body.
I have taught little Children for seventeen years. We take simple lessons from the Bible and tear it apart. The insight I get from little children, my wife and what they express is a real learning process for me as well as a faith builder. I go into "big church" and hear the message from men who God has inspired to preach. The whole time the Holy Spirit is prodding me to be introspective in what is being said. Because all of this is Bible based, I can review it in my prayer closet, check it out and ask God for deeper meaning. It is endless.
I shun the word "religion". To me, in it's contemporary form, it means "mans effort to reach God.....or have an appearance to that end." What I would prefer my own efforts to be is " to embrace God's provision and His efforts to reach me."
Injeun, if you are indeed curious, I could personally message you. The messages I hear are an open book with no secrets. Every week they are online for those who cannot attend. You could see one of our services at random. They are nothing different than messages out of the Bible preached all over the world inspired by the Holy Spirit. I prefer the corporate worship however so I attend most regularly. You can personally message me anytime.

 

Islam is united in Allah and, like Christianity, has different 'sects'. You should discuss with your children the real Nativity story. Explain the FACTS I have given you which you choose to ignore. Explain the Biblical Flood which could not happened, the Exodus story that never happened. You can indoctrinate them now but most will learn rthe real truth as they grow older..Then who can they trust?

 

There are other Constitutional principles and provisions that are ignored just because it is popular and considered unimportant. Think about the first principle of "we the people". Think of Article 6 which states that no religious test may be given for an individual to hold public office. Eight states have ruled that no atheist may hold office. There are many instances of this including the 2nd Amendment, and now the 14th Amendment which the courts are trying to dodge as they have with the 2nd by redefining and reinterpreting the words therein. Same with separation of church and state.

 

I don't know. I haven't studied him.

That doesn't NECESSARILY have anything to do with god or religion. It would seem to have everything to do with the brain and the possible effects of his NDE.

 

Yea, guess I should tell my children there is no purpose to life. Why should I tell them anything? It just comes from between my two ears anyway. Just like you Trevor. You have your own truth, so does everyone else. Why even interact? It's eat drink and be merry, tomorrow we die! I prefer the life of faith and what I know to be true.

 

PolitiFact | 7 states ban atheists from public office, but Supreme Court ruling make those bans unenforceable

Lots of old unenforceable laws on the books.

 

But those laws were created, and how many of them are followed anyway?

 

Did America have the cultural diversity or awareness of cultural diversity for this to be an issue prior to the 1960’s?

 

Sometimes the laws do show historical injustice. This injustice in this case, I would say, is against everyone for not allowing freedom of thought and for forcing speech in order to pursue happiness. One should be allowed to doubt God.

Sometimes these laws are kept on the books to prevent people from obtaining positions. For example, the law making homosexuality a criminal offense in Texas was used to prevent people from obtaining positions in Texas although it was never enforced. So, a future teacher or policeman would apply to a job and made it known publicly one way or another that he or she was homosexual. The future employer could deny them a job based on the fact that they planned on breaking the law despite the fact they were never prosecuted and would never be prosecuted. It took some collaboration between homosexual rights groups, law enforcement, and prosecutors to pursue the case to the Supreme court without dropping charges.

Similarly, during an election, an opponent can say that the atheist running is not eligible for office while not ever stopping him from running or obtaining office. This is why bad laws should be repealed and not left on the books.

 

Why is there no purpose to life? An atheist can be just as 'purposeful in life as a Christian. You simply do things because you believe in a god. That doesn't make you any better than an atheist. You simply can't accept that. You need faith to keep you going. You need to believe in life after death. I don't. Death is part of life. You teach the Bible without knowing the truth behind the actual stories, just what Christianity has taught you.

The information I have posted is unacceptable to you because you prefer to believe words in a book. Have you and Injeun ever thought what would have happened if Judaism had taken a different turn and Jesus had never existed. You would probably have turned to another 'god' to help you through. The Jewish god that Jesus worshipped was Jahweh. The Jews chose Yahweh over his father El while in the Babylonian exile. If you've studied the OT and Judaism you would know this.
You criticise what I posted yet have yet to tell me where I am wrong.

 

Note Jewish mysticism and the Kabbalah. Not general Judaism.

 

Of course it would.

 

I am not sure if that matters. Those who appeal to the Constitution assume that it has obvious meanings, and it does not.

 

You do have a purpose in life Trevor. It exists between your two ears and satisfies only what you crave. That is different things to different people. When we deal in history, it will always take a deal of faith to know what is true then accept it. I love American History. Take an event that happened over 200 years ago, the Battle of Little Bighorn, I agree with the historians that favor Custer and believe the actions he took were prudent given the circumstances. I have reasons to believe that. I acknowledge there is a more vocal group that for whatever believe Custer was in it for his own glory. I suspect the latter group has a dislike for America in general. I can't say for certain but by some of their comments it maybe true. I do not understand why you have a lack of belief. Perhaps you are just prideful that you take the bull by the horns. But I can tell you for certain, though I have read Josephus and other historians, I don't need them at all. The Bible is a miraculous piece of literature. The concepts in it about the nature of humankind are not replicated anywhere. The picture of what real Love is is duplicated no where. It never fails even though you would like it to. I know I could spend countless hours studying those that want to disprove the Bible.......but I am just going to go with what it reveals.

 

The constitution of the USA does not have obvious meanings?

 

Lots of the U.S. Constitution have been open to divergent interpretations for two centuries.

 

Rather inconvenient for travellers don't you think. Different states, different rules or interpretations of rules. A different 'guidebook' for crossing 'borders'.

 

The Bible is certain full of wisdom but so are many other books. Being English I have never studied Little Big |Horn so I have little knowledge of details. The Bible is certainly not a book of truth as I have shown you, but you choose to ignore. That is certainly not using ones head. If I am right - and I know I am from a great deal of study outside and in the Bible - with these facts, then you are simply lying to your children when you teach them. Yet you won't look for yourself.
Science is your enemy. Noahs mountain covering flood could not have happened. The Bible contradicts itself. In the book of Job you will find the hydrology cycle which shows the impossiblity of Noahs flood.. Your children will be able to see that. The Tower of Babel is just a story. Again this will become clear to your students. The Biblical story of the Exodus which tells of 2.5-3m Isrealites crossing to the Red Sea, descending possibly 1000+ feet of steep cliffs,(the Red Sea being up to 1600mfeet deep) crossing 100+ miles of muddy seabed (Red Sea being up to 190 miles across) and ascending the cliffs the other side in just one night. However todays language scholars tell us that Red really means Reed and so the early interpretation of the Bible was wrong.
You are not going with what it reveals. Just the parts you want to believe. I've no doubt you encourage your students to study the Bible but not beyond. It's like studying a medical dictionary without knowing the procedures giving rise to the terns.
I appreciate your desire to pass on what you believe but it's better to be sure what you believe is right first.

 

My faith in science and humankind has been shattered. Proven wrong on so many counts. I don't care to explore the details........I just go with what I know to be true and share it with others. It may be simple but I depend on something greater than it all. In my experiences it has been faithful to me. Yesterday I was at my brother in laws bedside. Was told he had three hours to live. It's been over 15 and that hasn't happened. Have spent much time with my sister and his children. There is much sadness but no regrets only joy. We look forward to our overall purpose that is beyond this framework of time, space and matter. You seem to put a lot of faith in everchanging science but science will end as well as scientists will end. So you might ask, what was their purpose?