Big-time Haley donors switch to backing Biden – not Trump

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  1. bx4

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    Haley supporters are traditional Republicans who are being driven away from the party by dirty Donny.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah because no Republicans would ever stray from Dear Leader Trump, right?
     
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    Hopefully that will be enough to sway the voting to Bidens favor. I see a low turnout to be a real issue against Biden.
     
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    most Americans can see Trump is a dangerous joke and should never be President ever again
     
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    Is that what they tell you on Fox?

    You have to be deluded to actually think that blacks and Hispanics are going to run to the side of a man whose whole political identity is based on appealing to white resentment and bigotry.

    But, in right wing world, this sort of delusion is normal.
     
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    That doesn’t even make sense.

    Democrats got campaign finance reform through Congress. No Republcian has even attempted to do that since Theodore Roosevelt.

    The GOP and its legal operatives brought the Citizen’s United Case, and a compliant SC used it to guy campaign finance reform.

    Now dark money prevails. Which is what the GOP wanted.
     
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    And so many more want another Trump administration. Haley like her donors are of the Privileged Class who want to continue the forever wars. I believe Americans are tired of sending their sons and daughters to fight for this Class. More money does not always translate into wins. Warmonger Hillary learned that lesson.
     
  8. WalterSobchak

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    What war are we currently fighting again?

    Did the war on Christmas end? We are close to Easter, so maybe we're in that war now? I'm confused.
     
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    In 2020 election Trump got 12% African American vote. yea , African American are running to Trump.

    I love MAGA, they think 12% is greater then 88%. No wonder they continue to lose election after election.
     
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    You must understand, MAGA believes in POLLS. If you keep looking in this forum, you will see they bring up polls every other sentence. But what they don’t believe is the actual election result.
     
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    Lol thats what you think?
     
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    LOL believe what you want. Believe that a bunch of "republicans" have started donating to Biden.

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    Big corporations might not agree with Biden on everything, but they appreciate certain things like stability, reliability and predictability. Trump brings chaos and unpredictability, as was evidenced by his comment about him not honoring NATO. Not even our allies can rely on US when he is in office. Now he is talking about 60% tariffs. Such things can be devastating to corporations.
     
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    Yes. Trump has driven a lot of Republicans out of the party.
     
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    I forgot about that war on Christmas. :)

    Did we win. ??
     
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    How many sons and daughters are fighting a war now? How many did Haley say she'd send? None. The whole "Haley wants war" line is pure imagination.

    Conservative Republicans, yes. Populists are replacing them.
     
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    Right, the democrat white overseers need to get out and educate these illiterate Blacks and Hispanics about how good they've got it today and long term under Joe Biden.
     
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    Do you actually think that being a Republican automatically means you like and support Trump?
     
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    They want war so they’re donating to the guy who ended our longest war? lol
     
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    Actually no there isn’t that many. Trump has only ever really held sway over about 30% of core believers and in pandering to those he is pissing off the rest
     
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    Ha ha ha!
     
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    Yeah this makes lots of sense considering the 2 wars Biden has put us in since Afghanistan. And those are the wars we know about.
     
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    Research Haley’s donors. They invest in candidates who have ties to or support companies associated with the MIC.
     
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    This happened on a miniature scale back in 2022 when a few normally large individual donors refused to bankroll some of Trump choices for that election. The difference was they didn’t donate to the democratic candidates or democratic party. They simply didn’t give their normal campaign donations to Trump backed candidates or pacs. The results were numerous Trump choices lost. Cameron, Masters, Walker, Diehl, Cox, Laxalt, Oz, Bolduc, Tshibaka, Palin, Lake, Schmidt, Dixon, Mastriano plus some I can’t remember all lost. Whether this was due to lack of funds or to independents thinking they were too extreme or a combination of both can be debated. All lost the independent vote, that is the only thing for certain.

    I’m not surprised that some of Haley’s financial backers won’t donate to Trump. A lot have already stated they wouldn't donate to Trump. It’s is a surprise though they’d give to the Biden campaign. Most have been loyal life long republican donors. But be careful here, just because they’re giving to Biden, that Biden has a huge lead in fundraising, doesn’t mean he’s going to win. One just has to look back on 2016 when Clinton raised and spent 1.191 billion to Trump’s 646.8 million and lost. Also, Biden still trails Trump in the polls and in the swing or tossup states. Be very careful into how much you read into this.


    2016 fund raising - https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

    Two candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Five candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

    Swing or tossup states - https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
     
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    I get it. You are trying to defend the idea that she is a "war monger" because some of her donors represent large American companies which supply the US Military (among other things). Boeing donated big to Trump campaign in 2016. Does that mean Trump is a war monger? According to your reasoning the answer is yes. Would Haley support strong US Military, including restocking supplies? YES, and you oppose it to tooth and nail, because her name is not Donald Trump. You make it too obvious.

    Correct. It doesn't mean anything.
     
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