Big-time Haley donors switch to backing Biden – not Trump

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  1. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Well stated.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like the illegal immigration problem?

    People who don't want to listen don't hear, don't want to see don't look.... but damned if they don't have opinions anyway.
     
  3. Death

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    I am just asking because historically a third party candidate other than Teddy Roosevelt never has been elected.

    Is it in theory possible someone other than Biden or Trump also runs and if so would they enable either candidate to win by syphoning votes. What happens if two moderates run who are healthy and middle of the road? Would that address the age issue for both?

    I still say it is a distinct possibly both or at least one of the candidates is medically incapacitated from running. Given the progressive deterioration of Trump's cognitive issues I would say him first. However I am sorry to say Biden could go to sleep and never wake up virtually any day of the week. He is a cancer survivor and frail. That is clear. His mind is better than Trump mentally but physically he is frail. Trump I mean my God, he can't speak coherently anymore, clearly is unable to explain any policy and has welcomed back a convicted criminal to run his campaign.
     
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    Let me ask. How does calling immigrants less than animals state a policy as to immigration?

    How does appealing to hatred of immigrants enunciate a cohesive effective policy?

    Do you think the solution is to make extremist statements that you can close off the entire Mexico border and call immigrants less than animals?

    Please explain that Trump's policy is let alone why it is better than the bi-partisan one proposed by Republicans and Democrats.

    You even know what his policy is? All he has done is appeal to calling immigrants less than animals and sealing of the border which is not possible logistically.

    Existing US law does not allow ANY President to totally seal the US border with Mexico:

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10283

    Trump appeals to people who do no understand the law and blindly buy into simplistic solutions.
     
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    Hoping that the turn out for voting by those individuals that have seen what the rulings of SCOTUS has done to rights of a certain group; will bring them out in droves to put in lawmakers that will pass laws to overturn what has happened.


     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've pretty much decided that there is no viable discussion with people feeding on a diet of hate.
    If you aren't smart enough to know that good societies are created by keeping bad people out, and to do that with immigration you have to have the ability to vet those people and decide who will contribute to your society and who will prey and feed on it.... Then you would probably think that everything is just ducky when your own president invites an invasion of unvetted immigrants, puts them up on your doorsteps and finances them with your money. Assuming you pay taxes.

    All the do-gooder crap is BS. The situation is not vague or ambiguous, it's crystal clear. If you don't understand, I have to think you are not capable of understanding no matter what anyone says- and that makes your opinion just so much noise.
     
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    With your statement..."If you aren't smart enough to know that good societies are created by keeping bad people out, and to do that with immigration you have to have the ability to vet those people.."
    it proves you are exactly what you profess to hate.
    What is the criteria you expect to use to "vet" people?



     
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    If you say so it must be true.
     
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    Feel free to tell me what you think is in dispute
     
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    Hey, good luck convincing voters that the feeble 81-year-old man with 50+ year history of **** ups in DC is going to follow thru with his promises this time.

    btw, plenty of Biden's policies will impact this country for generations, let's start with the border.

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    Now back to basketball!
     
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    And every one of the items you mentioned matter greatly.
     
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    Exactly!! He complains, blames everyone else , lies , labels with negative names, but offers NO viable / tangible ideas for solutions.
     
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    Well Trump hasn't gotten the nomination. But I can say I will vote for him if he does.
     

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