Big-time Haley donors switch to backing Biden – not Trump

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Ain’t none of our troops in either of those. If sending weapons makes us in a war, then trump was in a few himself
     
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  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Financial literacy unfortunately impacts a far greater number of Americans than the “blacks and Hispanics”.

    I also noticed you didn’t even try and dispute a single item I mentioned.
     
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  3. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    News. Dozens of reputable reports, Rasmussen polls. Most major newspapers and networks. No secret.
     
  4. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently it is, as no one can actually demonstrate the claim.
     
  5. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually think that it wasn't democrats propping up Nikki Haley in the primaries? You've made a zillion comments on this forum about how partisan the country is and how dumb both sides of the isle are at times. But all of a sudden you think republicans are just switching to Joe Biden? LOL.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Right. And that's why He received more votes in 2020 than any other republican candidate in history?
    LOOOL.
     
  7. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think there are certainly a percentage of Republicans who recognize Trump for the disaster he is and aren't letting themselves be bound by party politics. I'm sure there are Democrats who don't like Biden too. Why is that so hard to believe?
     
  8. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    So we have two potential outcomes -

    A. Republicans after voting for Nikki Haley in primaries are so angry at trump that instead of just staying home.... they are donating in large numbers to Joe Biden! (LOL) in spite of all the polling of republicans having a 7% or lower approval rating for Joe Biden. But yeah, donating to him now!

    B. Democrats who voted for Nikki Haley in primaries to try and hurt trump are now donating to Biden since Haley dropped out of the race.

    Pretty easy to figure this one out.
     
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  9. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can.
    Open browser.
    Go to search engine.
    Enter "black and hispanic support shifting to trump".
    Press enter. Get screen return like the one below-
    and several pages of similar reports if you scroll down.

    "Think for myself"?- I wouldn't have thought you would need these instructions.

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  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure what that illiterate gibberish has to do with me.
     
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  11. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, you're just assuming the left and the right are two monolithic blocs of people who are going to vote purely by which candidate is on their side. I'm not sure if it's because you've spent too much time on the internet or you assume the world works the same for everyone as it does for you, but you are simply incorrect.

    Polling data is hardly representative of the hundreds of millions of people who live in this country. I would think would be pretty apparent by now.
     
  12. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Interesting response, thanks for sharing.
    :roflol:
     
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  13. Death

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    Provide the evidence for that. That Trump tactic of spitting out an allegation with no evidence-you think its worked? You think all the allegations Maga and Trump made with zero evidence have worked and stuck to Biden? How is that impeachment of Biden going? How did Rudy's attempt to obtain evidence from a Russian spy, a Chinese spy and how does the attempt now to present as a witness against Biden a man sitting in jail for pension fraud work? There your Maga disciples are saying Biden is a criminal and his son is a criminal relying on criminals and spies to do so.

    Tell me Rudy's attempts in court and meeting with a Russian spy during an election campaign to get dirt on Biden with false Russian disinformation did it work?

    You think?

    So who are these hispanics and blacks. Who? Kanye West? Lol who else? Wake up man. That appeal to blacks saying look at me I am a criminal just like you, you think it worked? What world do you live in?

    Just so everyone knows what you refer to:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/18/why-are-black-voters-backing-donald-trump-in-record-numbers

    The very article you quote says: "Latest polls show 17 percent of Black voters would vote for former president today – more than twice the number in 2016."

    And, while current opinion polls vary, a recent survey from GenForward shows that if the elections were held today, 17 percent of Black voters would vote for Donald Trump while 20 percent said they would vote for someone other than Trump or Biden.

    The article states "And, while current opinion polls vary, a recent survey from GenForward shows that if the elections were held today, 17 percent of Black voters would vote for Donald Trump while 20 percent said they would vote for someone other than Trump or Biden."

    Did you even read it. you think Gen Forward is the only opinion poll out there?

    The article also said A Gallup poll last year showed that the proportion of Black adults in the US who consider themselves Democrats had decreased from 77 percent in 2020 to 66 percent.

    You want to quote that? Go ahead. How does it mean blacks and hispanics are running to Trump?

    Yes we can all cherry pick headlines saying Biden has slippage with Latino and Hispanic voters. But are they true? The following article repudiates this:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/08/politics/fact-check-trump-mugshot-polling/index.html
     
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  14. Junkieturtle

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    Thanks for conceding.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am against gaming elections by either party. When all is said and done they leave you with the two choices they wanted, not you.
     
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    Oh he is definitely attracting people who were not traditional republicans.

    But he has also driven traditional republicans away.
     
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    With what has happened with SCOTUS rulings the past 4 yrs, hopefully your statement will be wrong.


     
  18. mdrobster

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    Which statement is that, the low turnout or enough votes.
     
  19. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and more illiterates are streaming in due to your guy's border policies.

    Sanctuary cities like New York, Chicago, and Washington D.C., once falling over themselves to signal their virtue and welcome immigrants, are now calling for a state of emergency and demanding more money from the federal government after tens of thousands of migrants have been forced upon their social welfare programs.

    But resistance to importing millions of new Americans whose first act on U.S. soil was to break the law and enter illegally is coming from Black Americans, who are sick of having our fight for equity in this country appropriated by people looking for a better economic outlook.

    Black Chicagoans of the South Shore neighborhood came out in droves to reject a recent proposal to convert a public high school building into a migrant facility. With chants of "build the wall" and calling the city council to task for "making decisions about us, when none of you live here," Black American South Side residents took a stance against more crime from unvetted migrants, siphoning financial resources away from Black citizens, and imposing unnecessary competition for jobs.


    Biden's Open Border Hurts Black Americans Most of All—and We Know It | Opinion (newsweek.com)

    We noticed you didn't give any reasons to vote for Biden, four more years of the same?
     
  20. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He isn’t my guy — I will bet you I am more conservative on the border than most so called conservatives.

    But this still doesn’t address the other issues you are trying to ignore. And Republicans have never done anything about the border and are currently refusing to do any negotiations regarding it including failing to even consider the bipartisian bill that ICE has called the “most conservative” they have ever seen.

    So spare me

    Republicans don’t have a clue how to address the financial or immigration issues this nation faces and while I am not saying Democrats are much better — at least they are not trying to push religion into schools, cut social security to our elderly and forcing young girls and women to have their rapists child.
     
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    It has to do with you, because you asked where people were seeing that, in regards to black and Hispanic voters moving to support Trump.
    That is precisely what the post showed you- what you asked for. But apparently- what you didn't want to see.
    Maybe you just assume what you don't want to see is "illiterate gibberish", and block it out?
     
  22. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I asked where that poster was seeing that. My question was no an invitation for whining at me about off topic nonsense.
     
  23. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure :rolleyes:

    Yes, spare us, the guy you support ended Trump's border policies resulting in the mess we have now at the border and all across the country, only 26% approved of Biden's handling of immigration.

    Only 17% of Senate border bill goes to US border security.

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    Same old blather, tell us why Blacks and Hispanics should vote for Biden, four more years of the same?
     
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    I have already listed the polices of trump that will impact this nation for a generation.

    You flew past them because you couldn’t dispute facts

    If they value bodily autonomy they will not vote for trump
    If they value decorum they will not vote for trump
    If they value bipartisan solutions they will not vote for trump
    If they value programs that benefit the average taxpayer and not the elite they will not vote for trump

    If they value division, trade wars, quantitative easing, negative rates, hyper partisan judges, loss of basic rights, massive deficit spending, tax breaks for the wealthy, cuts to social security and everything trump represents — then they should vote for trump
     
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    Its easy to complain. That is what Trump does. He never propose san alternative to what he thinks is wrong.
     
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