Trump indicates he'd testify in hush money trial, says a conviction could 'make me more popular'

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  1. Izzy

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    Michael Cohen knows where all the bodies are buried.
     
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    Looks like Kellyanne Conway got a pass ?
    Time will tell.

    'Witnesses in Trump's hush money trial likely to include former members of his inner circle, sources say'
    'Rhona Graff, Madeleine Westerhout and Hope Hicks are expected to testify.'

    'Prosecutors have not publicly released a witness list, and the sources cautioned the decision to call someone to testify is subject to change before the trial, which is set to begin April 15. A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney's office declined to comment to ABC News about the prospective witnesses. Lawyers for the other potential witnesses either declined to comment or did not return requests for comment.'




    https://abcnews.go.com/US/witnesses... said prosecutors with,"fixer," Michael Cohen.
     
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    Trump needs to be punished for delaying his most important crimes, thus, a guilty verdict whether this trial is politically driven or not.
     
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    Interesting statement!

    While I totally agree he's delayed the heck out of his trials (his legal right only afforded by money and has been shown great difference by the justice system), and I believe, IMO, he's guilty of what's been charged (and more), the system must be allowed to work the way it was designed to. My $0.02, Garland dropped the ball when he stepped into the DOJ, by wasting almost 16-18 months not seriously following up on the failed coup attempt and who stood the most to benefit from it had it succeeded. It was obvious to the majority or the people at the time what had occurred. Garland really screwed the pooch.

    Bragg initially screwed the pooch on this one as well.....
     
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    I wonder how much these witnesses have turned against Trump. Hicks I know was very unhappy with Trump over 1/6. And the way Trump treats his help, I doubt they have any loyalty to him. Anyways jury selection starts next week, and this is a criminal case, so his backside is on the line.
     
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    Trump's other appearances in NYC courthouses never produced the thousands of supporters he expected to protest.

    'Law enforcement will deploy robust security package around Trump for New York hush money trial'
    Source: CNN

    Published 7:04 PM EDT, Thu April 11, 2024


    CNN — When former President Donald Trump appears in a New York courtroom Monday to face an unprecedented legal battle in his hush money case, law enforcement will deploy a sophisticated and multi-layered security plan greater than that of his previous high-profile cases in Manhattan, law enforcement officials told CNN.

    The hallmark of the strategy is a combination of extra staffing, strategically placed frozen zones, high-tech deployments and intelligence, which includes monitoring social media for anything ranging from lone wolf threats to major politically themed protests and disturbances, the officials said. “Obviously, the threat picture is bigger,” said New York Police Department Assistant Chief John Hart, commanding officer of the NYPD’s Intelligence and Counterterrorism Division, who added that they did a similar security ramp up around Trump when he became the GOP nominee in 2016.

    “We had to set up a whole infrastructure around Trump Tower, which we will have to rebuild for this,” Hart said of the security posture around the former president. “We’re going to be looking at the threat picture on a constant basis. Social media scrubbing, just listening to people making calls or making threats online, all of those things.'

    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/poli...ty-new-york-hush-money-trial-trump/index.html
     
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    oh, God.
    This **** again.

    'Trump defense challenges jury selection in criminal hush money trial'

    'Trump’s defense argues the jury selection in his criminal hush money trial is 'inadequate'

    snip:

    'The letter states that the defense opposes dismissing potential jurors who "self-identify as being unable to serve," calling it inadequate. Instead, the defense said they wish to use a hybrid method to differentiate between jurors who claim they cannot be fair and impartial and those who are simply unable to serve.

    "That clarity is necessary so that President Trump can present arguments to the First Department, if and when necessary, regarding the number of potential jurors who believed they harbored a disqualifying bias before questioning, as well as the number of additional potential jurors who reveal a disqualifying bias during questioning," the letter read.'

    cont:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-defense-challenges-jury-selection-criminal-hush-money-trial
     
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    Right around the corner. Sore Loser Trump should have his chance to testify. :rolleyes: Do his supporters actually believe that he'll testify, when he says he will? When this turns out to JUST-ANOTHER-LIE, will any of them abandon him?
     
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    ?????? He didnt say he will. He said ""I would have no problem testifying,". If he doesnt testify I would speculate that his attorney's advised him not to do so. While you will accept as unquestioned fact that he lied because you dint even read what it is that he said.
     
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    Not according to that bastion of truth FOX News. Trump says "I tell the truth". That may the biggest whopper of all time! ---

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    'I tell the truth': Trump says he'll testify at hush money trial as judge rejects last minute plea

    "I'm testifying. I tell the truth. I mean, all I can do is tell the truth," Trump told reporters at a press conference at Mar-a-Lago Friday. "And the truth is, that there's no case."


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/tell-truth-trump-says-hell-214120887.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
     
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    He won't. Between now and when he might testify, we will see all sorts of histrionics about how the Judge has it in for him and so he decided the nasty Judge would be mean to him and because he might make the Judge madder, he did not testify.

    MAGA will swallow any bullshit.
     
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    Wrong the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor business records allegation ran out years ago. And it was Cohen who handled how it was reported not Trump. The FEC and DOJ found no voting fraud and never charged let alone prosecuted him for any fraud. Bragg has no jurisdiction over elections for federal offices. In fact he has not even stated exactly what law he is claiming here. Even SCOTUS has ruled that such payments do not come under campaign finance laws.
     
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    Yes we wish the lies and phony indictments woukd stop.

    He used his own money so why do you keep making that false statement? And it was not SOLELY, if at all, to impact the election. The FEC and DOJ looked and did not charge him. You do NOT have a campaign finance indictment let alone conviction. Bragg is out of his jurisdiction.

    I think even he was surprised at how little the holyrollers cares but still.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Aren't we all?

    I believe such judgements were dropped after Bill Clinton when voters were told the private lives of Presidents were none of our business even when it involved sexually harassing and assaulting subordinate employees.
     
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    Which is utter nonsense lawyers act on behalf of their clients in such matters ROUTINELY and payments for NDA's are quite common and perfectly legal.

    What other crime was Trump convicted of and in what court? What other felony is Bragg charging him with and be specific?
     
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    If you treat payments as if they were legal fees, then the payments are treated as legitimate business expenses. These payments ultimately did NOT end up as payments to his lawyer, Michael Cohen, but were used to so that Michael Cohen could then transfer the money as hush money. Cohen set up the account, and he has Trump's confirmation by recorded tape. This is just one aspect. Secondly, the money was used to influence an election, which is also against New York State law.
     
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    They aren’t phony unfortunately

    I wish we had more options besides a super old white dude and a super old white criminal (and before you say this is all political prosecution — feel free to explain the almost half dozen fraud verdicts prior to his election)

    Then you have nothing to worry about in this case.

    But the last few instances you said “he didndo nothing wrong” he was found liable.
     
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    As I said the phony trials.

    And you have nothing to support your case for this phony trial.

    What is the specific crime for which he was convicted that ramps this to a felony?
     
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    We all know that April 15 is the day where Trump has to face the music if you know what I mean. Trump tried to delay the hush money trial and now he can't get out of it. Too bad for trump. and I mean it. You have to wonder if there will be interest among up on this.
     
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    Depends on whether it is a business or PERSONAL And the statute of limitations on that minor reporting error is long since passed.


    The laws of the State of New York do not apply to campaign financing for Presidential campaigns. That is the jurisdiction of the FEC and DOJ and they found no violations. Even that law requires the money be SOLELY for the campaign. As SCOTUS said in the John Edwards case that does not apply to such NDA agreements.

    But do cite this law that says any personal money that a candidate spends that might in someway influence the election comes under campaifn finace reporting requirements and when he was convicted.
     
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    He paid off a prostitute to not disclose their affair as to not impact his election. That’s election interference. Also, it is up to a court to decide if him offsetting personal funds with campaign funds is a violation.

    We will just have to see what happens.
    I will accept the results either way — will you?
     
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    So, what will be his**** last gasp effort to delay the start?

    1. Sack the Lawyers.
    2. Feign illness.
    3. Some urgent injunction direct to SCOTUS.
    4. A bomb scare.
    5. All of the above.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
    *Built the New York skyline
     
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    was waiting for this spin from him. Totally predictable. IF that is the case. then why has he been fighting to dealy, dismiss etc ?? with that comment , he is counting on his followers to adore him even more if convicted. That suggests that his followers have no more standards, ethics or morals than he does.
    Suspect he says these things to make himself feel better as the mere idea of losing......is so unpalatable to him. His world is binary in terms of winning and losing. Nothing in between. It is very sad.....that he needs to play these mind games with himself. and others.
     
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    This manipulator plans ahead . His deviousness has not limit. Whatever happens, it will be a circus with him playing center stage. Whatever happens legally...... will probably be the side show.
     
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    Trump keeps repeating that "he did nothing wrong". His supporters ditto his language and believe him. It is unfortunate as he is a consumate liar.
     
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