Biden Administration to close gun show loophole

?You're proud of these statistics? Many major countries can count their gun deaths on their two hands. I'm proud of this Administration for starting to take some action on this epidemic in the US.

 

why should we be proud of this? mainly caused by inner city blacks and latinos. Now suicides-lots of white guys there but that's not gun crime. WE are proud that we have the freedom to own firearms since we are the supreme sovereign. Other countries don't trust their citizens to own guns. Most lefties don't either because they see government as superior to the people. I don't.

 

None of your extremist "liberal" gun agenda addresses the facts that other major countries in the world have very little gun violence. I say "liberal", because in these countries you would be considered a political liberal. I love the US, and we do a lot of things right, but our gun BS is not part of it.

 

I couldn't care less-many nations with severe gun control policies have far higher rates of murder than we do. And stop the facade-what bothers you is the politics of gun advocates. Most gun violence is perpetrated by those who the Democrats court as constituents

 

"The homicide rate in the US was 7.5 times higher than the homicide rate in the other high-income countries combined, which was largely attributable to a firearm homicide rate that was 24.9 times higher. The overall firearm death rate was 11.4 times higher in the US than in other high-income countries. In this dataset, 83.7% of all firearm deaths, 91.6% of women killed by guns, and 96.7% of all children aged 0-4 years killed by guns were from the US. Firearm homicide rates were 36 times higher in high-gun US states and 13.5 times higher in low-gun US states than the firearm homicide rate in other high-income countries combined. The firearm homicide rate among the US white population was 12 times higher than the firearm homicide rate in other high-income countries. The US firearm death rate increased between 2003 and 2015 and decreased in other high-income countries. The US continues to be an outlier among high-income countries with respect to firearm deaths."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30817955/

So much for the security of a free state......

 

Such cherry picking is an attempt to justify your low public safety standards.

 

nothing you want will promote public safety. Sure, you will claim it will but we both know it's a facade. Gun control is nothing more than schemes by left-wingers to harass people who generally vote against Democrats, progressives, socialists and communists and to pretend that those who coddle criminals are trying to do SOMETHING about crime

 

why does the group that has the Highest rate of LEGAL gun ownership, have so much lower rates of gun crime than groups that often have much LOWER rates of LEGAL gun ownership?

 

It doesn't make any difference whether it's fact or not with you. Nothing but partisan rhetoric.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/f...w-enforcements-top-domestic-terrorism-concern

Far-right violence a growing threat and law enforcement’s top domestic terrorism concern

The Proud Boys played a critical part in carrying out the Jan. 6 attack, but the group is just one part of a trend of increased white supremacist and far-right violence. Top U.S. law enforcement officials say those extremist movements are the biggest domestic terrorism threat facing the country. Laura Barrón-López discussed the rise of far-right extremism with Kathleen Belew and Seamus Hughes.

 

not only is that completely irrelevant to my point about how causes the most violent crime that's a bit fraudulent because you pretend it is law enforcement's main concern. In reality domestic terrorism isn't their biggest concern. Leftwing violent criminals kill far more people than even the most generous definition of "far right" extremists

 

But you support violent criminals having easy access to firearms (whether or not they can be classified as right wing or left wing).

 

They don't care who gets guns, as long as they can make a buck while the innocent are dying.

 

wrong as usual. What I don't support is schemes that you push that make it harder for honest people to get guns and have no impact on criminals. Just like I want a high burden on the government to convict people of crimes because I don't want innocent people convicted. You ignore the fact that it is already a serious felony for someone with a record to possess a firearm. that is sufficient punishment for deterrence and if that doesn't deter them, the silly laws you want to impose won't do anything additional

 

This is the sort of inane claims that come from people who only pretend to care about public safety, but whose real motivation is based on hating gun owning voters and advocates. You all only pretend about public safety when your real goal is harassing people who don't buy into your woke or communist-lite political views

 

Well there are something like 400m firearms in 150m or so hands and only 20 some odd thousand intentional deaths of another by firearm. That stat? Includes justified shootings.
I think that's a pretty ****ing good ratio actually.

 

The security of a free state is about the whole reason the japanese knew better than to invade. The old "a rifle behind every blade of grass".
It doesn't imply that a random member of the population will be perfectly safe.

 

public safety has nothing to do with the motivations of the avid gun banning lefties. Other than the safety of control freaks and violent criminals. It's merely a facade they erect to serve as a pretext for their real goal-control and harassment of their political enemies

 

A "good ratio" isn't going to bring back those 20-SOME-ODD-THOUSAND DEATHS. Other countries don't have those deaths.

 

Same dude always stating "what other people think". A common ploy - put words into the mouths of others. Sound familiar?

 

well when you prove that you all push stuff that has zero chance of decreasing crime but will harass gun owners (like the Hughes amendment or magazine bans) it proves that the gun ban movement is either dishonest or so ignorant that it has to be ridiculed

 

Mexico and South Africa does. so does Brazil and other gun banning countries

 

Yes, they do. They're just not by gun. Violent crime is often quite high in places where people are not allowed to self defend.

Example: Canadian authorities recently told people to just set their valuables on the porch at night so no one has to break into their home.

 

Cherrypicking nonsense.

 

Keep telling yourself that

 

I have yet to see a valid argument from him. what is hilarious is the pretense that crime control is what motivates his anti gun arguments