“Over 2% of Gaza’s child population killed or injured”

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn't aware that the entire population of any of those countries were coming here, or that anyone was slaughtering them by the tens of thousands. You seem to be confusing immigration with ethnic cleansing.
     
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    Does Hamas or Iran know what they are doing in Gaza?
     
  3. Tipper101

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    Is that why there are so many Native American terrorists out there?

    Oh wait…


    So, really, the actual factor in acting like a POS is to be a POS.


    And boy do the Palestinians have a lot of POS among them!
     
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  4. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There were LOTS of Native Americans acting like what we would call terrorists today back in the day. And I would say their cause was a just one, though I will never say the killing of innocents is justified. It was diplomacy and activism that helped there, and is still going on in a big way. Reparations were made, but more can still be done.
     
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    The Hamas health ministry is part of a terrorist organization.
     
  6. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And where did Save the Children get their statistics? From the Hamas run Health Ministry?
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry for being LOGICAL. According to you "If other countries take Palestinians, that is, by definition, ethnic cleansing".
    I assume that Palestinians have exactly the same rights as Jews, Mexicans, Venezuelans, Haitians or Chinese, the US took immigrants I mentioned, so according to you the US committed the ethnic cleansing.
    If ethnic cleansing is only when "he entire population" left country - LOGICALLY it means Israel did not commit ethnic cleansing by expelling some Palestinians and Palestinians did no commit ethnic cleansing by expelling some Jews.
    But don't worry, you are not alone - many people who protest against Israel are not logical either.
     
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  8. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are definitely having problems with your definitions.
    If people come to this country voluntarily, on their own initiative, that is immigration.
    If an entire population is FORCED from their homes, forced to relocate to another country while their lands are stolen by settlers, that is ethnic cleansing.

    I hope that clears it up for you. Palestinians have stated many times that they do not want to go anywhere. They made that mistake during the Nakba, and Israel stole the homes of 700,000 Palestinians.
     
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    “Back in the day”. Yep. Funny how things have changed. According to your formula, that should’ve been impossible. “Diplomacy and activism”, whatever the hell that means. just make it up as you go along huh? Go take a look at a map sometime and plot the lands the Native Americans had before the White Man came along and what lands they hold now. Hundreds of tribes and not one of them today are terrorists and haven’t acted in any way like that since late 1800s.

    Figure it out
     
  10. Josh77

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    So, you see what happened to the Native Americans as a model for what should happen to the Palestinians?? That is sick, even for you. What we did to them is beyond evil. and yes, it only ended through extensive negotiation, where Native Americans were given sovereignty, far better than what Israel gives Palestine.
     
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    Nope, I’m saying there are countless historical examples that prove your justification and excuse making for terrorists and their behavior is founded on make believe BS. The idea you can’t wipe out terrorists without creating more terrorists is pure hocus pocus BS.
     
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    Thank you for teaching me about ethnic cleansing.
    As you probably know Israel never forced entire population from their homes, so accordingly to you Israel never committed ethnic cleansing. Also Palestinians never forced entire population from their homes, so accordingly to you Palestinians never committed ethnic cleansing.

    Yes, I know Palestinians have stated many times that they do not want to go anywhere, but should we trust them what they are saying? Somehow about 370 thousand Palestinians found themselves in Kuwait:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_exodus_from_Kuwait_(1990–91)
    also:
    500 thousands in Chile,
    250 thousands in the US,
    here are more numbers:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_diaspora#Population_figures

    So I guess the proper definition of ethnic cleansing is:
    1. Israel is committing ethnic cleansing does matted what Israel is doing.
    2. When Arabs expel Jews from their homes, forced to relocate to another country while their homes are stolen by Palestinian settlers - it is not ethnic cleansing.
    Agree?
     
  13. Josh77

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    Uh huh. It has been working SO well for Israel, hasn't it?
     
  14. Josh77

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    Lol, go ahead, keep digging your hole deeper. Twist your logic however you have to allow yourself to sleep at night with your support of ethnic cleansing.
     
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    You dont know that.
     
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    You do realize that there are Palestinians living IN Israel with full Rights.... right?
     
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    Actually I think Israel gave Palestinians much more land that America gave to Native Americans.
    What % of the land America stole from Native Americans and what % of the land Israel 'stole' from Palestinians?

    IndiansTeritory.jpg

    And I am not talking about the Trail of Tears:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

    Wounded Knee Massacre
    https://www.britannica.com/event/Wounded-Knee-Massacre

    Christian Lenape massacre
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnadenhutten_massacre

    Fort Recovery massacre
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair's_defeat#Battle

    Battle of Bad Axe massacre
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bad_Axe

    and many more.

    But lets go back to Palestinians.
    What do you think would be the US reaction if Mexico attacked US murdering 1200 Americans, also raping women and kidnapping men, women and children, claiming that they want get back territories which Mexico lost to US during American Mexico war?
    Can I guess you answer?
    I think your answer will be - it will be not the same because Mexicans are not Jews.
    Did I guess?
     
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    I didn't say all the kids would grow up to be terrorists, I said many of them would. I think the betting odds would be in my favor.
     
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    Not now - Israel pretty much killed health workers in Gaza.

    At least to the best of their abilities.

    And, Israel doesn't count bodies.
     
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    They will grow up to defend Gaza, if threatened. I hope we're nearing the end of the threat they have faced.

    Once free they have serious work to do to build back a thriving, more than just self sufficient state.

    They need to build hospitals, universities, utilities, agriculture, import/export systems, financial institutions, etc., etc.

    And, about 2 million places to live!

    They don't even have an airport or a seaport at present.

    It's estimated that they are sitting on a wealth of fossil fuel.

    They have DECADES of work to do, given Israel's destruction and decades of living under siege.
     
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    So if these statistics don't come from Israel, they come from Hamas.
     
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    Again, those numbers aren't really rising, even though the IDF continues to bomb civilians.

    Remember that aid workers, press, emergency services workers, hospitals, etc. are IDF targets.

    Plus, Gaza doesn't have much in the way of digging equipment, due to IDF targeting.

    So, the dead aren't really being counted by anyone anymore.
     
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    a lot better than for Hamas, huh?
     
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    So you would have no problem with Iran supporting Hamas in doing the same to Israel? Killing every Israeli in order to obtain a Palestinian state?

    As you say, that is how wars are concluded.
     
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    I would say from seeing videos and those three that got shot at here in the US. They grow up to be just wackos.
     

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