Gay strip Club draws heat for live sex show?

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't aware that people were required to pay a private individual for entry into a place of "public accommodation".
     
  2. mikezila

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    you've never seen a bar with a cover charge, or been to the movies? :confuse:
     
  3. Ethereal

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    You're missing the point. A place of "public accommodation" is not a place where you have to pay a private individual to access his or her property. A place of "public accommodation" is place that is publicly owned and accessible, like a public park or a courthouse. A for-profit, private business is not a place of "public accommodation" because it is not open to the general public, nor is it acting in the public interest; it is open only to those individuals who can pay. You don't need to pay to use a park or a courthouse, and when you pay to use public transit the funds go back into the public treasury, not some guy's pockets. You are blurring the lines between "public" and "private" and that is not something a small government conservative ought to do. There is a clear delineation between the two.
     
  4. mikezila

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    no, places of public accommodation are businesses to serve the public in their basic needs. like bars, restaurants, theaters, hotels, shopping malls (but not the stores themselves), gas stations. if it's travel, food, entertainment or lodging, it's public accommodation. the places prohibited from discrimination based on race, creed, color, religion...yadda, yadda yadda.
     
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    Sure it does. That's why a private country club can exclude people based on race or sex whereas a public golf course cannot.

    That is beside the point though since this took place in Canada so US law doesn't apply. My point is that consenting adults in a private club should be free to engage in what are otherwise perfectly legal acts.
     
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    no country club openly bars members based on race. they know they can't get away with it so they vote on new members.

    Canadian laws are similar, but more "liberal".
     
  7. Ethereal

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    A private business exists to maximize profit, not to "serve the public".

    That's just an appeal to the law, which I am saying is wrong. A private business should be allowed to discriminate. It's private property.
     
  8. mikezila

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    not if they want to profit from doing business with the public. it's no different from zoning laws and building codes. they exist to protect the rights of your neighbors from having truck traffic in your subdivision and living next to a fire trap.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They may not "openly" do so but that is simply to keep the racist stigma at bay. Private clubs in the US can and do discriminate. If you don't believe me, get your wife to apply for membership in the Augusta National Golf Club.
     
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    i'll never get married. i don't want people to think i'm gay. :bonk:
     
  11. Defengar

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    How many countless straight porno`s have been made where the woman is dressed in a girls school uniform? yeah.....
     
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    This is even better:

    Really? Last I heard, men had a penis. That creates a bulge. I assume some people didn't know this (like those who complained) so I figured I should point out the obvious.

    As for the show, it doesn't sound like my cup of tea, so I probably wouldn't go. Some people would attend on purpose for the sole purpose of complaining about it later.
     
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    ^^^^
    Kind of like people who go to movies that they know they will hate just so they have an excuse to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about them more.

    Guy: Duuuuuuude, the new twilight movie is a blight on the history of film.

    Me: THEN WHY THE (*)(*)(*)(*) DID YOU GO SEE IT?!?!!?!


    Same deal with this situation.
     
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    Certainly they do.

    Private country clubs can, and do, bar people from joining based on any of the criteria inappropriate for PUBLIC businesses to discriminate.

    There are country clubs that bar women, or minorities of all sorts, or old people, or poor people, or Muslims or Catholics, or Democrats. While a few "private clubs" have been forced to not discriminate because they had practices that meant they were defacto NOT a "private" club, but a public business, PRIVATE busienss can do whatever it wants. And the food it serves will not be inspected.

    Otherwise, a private club is free to do what they wish. Sorry, Right Wing, you are not nearly as oppressed as you like to think!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_club
     
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    Sorry, but you're just wrong.

    A place of public accomodation is anywhere that the public is accomodated with food, lodging, liquor, gaming, entertainment, etc. It includes hotels, motels, restaurants, casinos, etc.
     
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    My guess is that this business isn't going to last too long, they've made too many enemies. They are offering a service that is putting their competitors out of business due to the popularity of that service.
     
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    Sorry, but you're just wrong.

    A place where you must pay a private business owner to access their property is not a place of "public accommodation" precisely because the act of paying excludes certain segments of "the public", namely, those who cannot afford to pay. No one is excluded from public parks and courthouses because they are incapable of paying for the services rendered.

    By failing to recognize the obvious distinction between a private business and a place of "public accommodation", you are blurring the lines between private and public property and threatening the very basis upon which our individual property rights are established.
     
  18. SaveUSA

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    At least, the people there are adults!

    But numerous in the USA, Canada and elsewhere in many countries create sex movies with children abusing them, unfortunately; so at least, this sex club are consenting adults!
     
  19. flounder

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    How wonderful,,just think of it,,Frisco gone....Tony Bennet left his heart there,,but that's when it was still sane...Now it's nothing but garbage ruined by Liberal stink, and a drag on society.
    The proof is in the pudding, wherever they go....They add nothing but filth and depravity, and your right it has nothing to do with being Gay,,it has to do with an ideology that has to do with Leeching off society...
     
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    Yes Beeve,,sex is something new.....
     
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    To you maybe. We can deal with it, without religion rearing it's ugly head.
     
  22. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, that's a good question. There was a place in Knoxville that was a notorious Gay Bar even back in the sixties. It was called The Huddle. We used to joke about tying somebody up and leaving them for the queers in front of The Huddle. Nobody ever talked about shutting it down. As long as they kept it in their own place we didn't give a rats ass what they did with each other.

    But as a second note. "Dressed as a schoolboy"? (from the OP) Can you say pedo-homo connection?
    Kinda makes that entire old thread moot doesn't it?
     
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    Whose morals?
     
  24. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    That's the point, deal with what? a bunch of people staring at naked people,,,WOW!
    Not exciting enough??,,so lets stick a school kid in.....ahhh,,now you have depravity,,how wonderful...God has nothing to do with it,,respecting Human beings does...
     
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    When respect and religion coincide, talk to me.
     

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