Rick Perry Loves 85 mph speed limits and helicopter hog-hunting

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  1. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well said! Personally I've never understood why you can't physically drink a beer while driving. Even with the BAC restrictions it doesn't make sense. One beer will not instantly shoot you up to 0.08. Sure you're more likely to get pulled over, but that's your fault.
     
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    Drunk driving is dangerous! We all know that alcohol has an affect on your depth perception and your ability to make sound decisions. It does affect everyone differently, but really does anybody feel like they drive safely drunk? I mean come on. I'm not willing to put my life, and everyone else on the road's, in danger so you can drive home after a night at a bar. It does put other people's lives in danger.
     
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    85 MPH?Thats all?85 mph isnt (*)(*)(*)(*).lol
    You know Germanys expressways have no speed limit and there isnt a plague of car wrecks there.
    If you cant handle driving 85 mph,you shouldnt even be behind the wheel.
     
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    No no, you are mistaken. Speeders R Murderers has assured us that driving is the most dangerous crime in the existence of the human race and must be stopped at any cost. Anyone who drives at all is a criminal and a murderer and should be executed at once.
     
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    I certainly won't drive drunk either. However the way drinking and driving laws are it's hard to tell if you're in violation (you can't buy a police calibrated BAC tester) and it encourages states to forget about the constitution in pursuit of 'punishing the wicked' (DUI checkpoints). There's also the argument that not everyone is affected the same. At 0.08+ (we'll say 8 beers in 4+ hours, not unreasonable) I'm still not bouncing off the walls, however my ex was sloshed at 1 and 1/2 drinks of anything. Clearly people who are not driving safe should be removed from the road, drunk or sober, but setting up a universal (and low) limit on BAC that you can't test yourself and that encourages the states to push laws to the limit the people will allow (not our rights, already past there) isn't something I can really support.
     
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    I think the OP is exaggerating a bit.

    I'm not a fan of Perry at all, but I'm less worried about what he wants to legalize and far more worried about his character and his ability to comprehend things like foreign policy.
     
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    Yeah right. Wait till the drunk drivers kill someone before we do anything to them.???
     
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    Speeders R Murderers Banned

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    Would you drive 80 in a 60 zone if you knew that doing 20 mph or more over the speed limit qualified as a felony which means you could never have a gun again and in many states not even vote and were banned from many jobs?
     
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    HAHAHA. So now there is a constitutional right to drive drunk??
     
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    He seems to be ignoring the whole outlaw cars thing.

    Speeders, you do realize if the speedlimit were 0 cars would still kill people?
     
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    I agree. It's also called a speed limit, not the minimum speed you should go.
     
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    ABC used to be a legit news orginization. No more obviouslly. Amazing how the main stream media has gone down the toilet.

    On page 3 of the article we find this.....

    While Gov. Perry may not have championed hog heli-hunting or faster speed limits.......

    Really.
     
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    There is a constitutional right from unreasonable search. Being searched for traveling down a road is pretty unreasonable.
     
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    That last part was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Drunk drivers make up a much smaller percentage than sober drivers. Of course sober drivers are going to have more accidents because there are a lot more of them. Drunk drivers have a much higher chance of getting into an accident than sober drivers.
     
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    How do you know the percentage of legally "drunk" vs. sober drivers? I think you're just parroting the rhetoric used by the state to scare people into letting them infringe on their rights.
     
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    Wtf? Is it a bit h about anything day or what?

    Google Texas helicopter hog hunting man. The state has been doing it for a long time. There are tons of videos on it. The hogs are destroying crop fields.

    And the speed limit on I-49 here in Louisiana in some places just went up to 75mph from 70. What is the big deal there? Who cares if Texas put it at 85mph. Whatever the limit is, everyone drives 5 mph over it anyways. Now that it is 85, people will do 90 routinely.
     
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    Laugh all you want, Speeders R Murderers.

    But it is a fact the concealed handgun permits have reduced the crime rates in Texas. These days the repeat offenders don't know which of their potential victims is heavily armed and which ones are not. Consequently, they conclude the risks are much too great!

    Also feral hogs are now a big problem in Texas. Besides, what difference does it make if your bacon and pork chops come from a clean shot from a helicopter or from a clean shot in a slaughter house. The end results for the hogs are the same in both cases!

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    If a person in visibly drunk behind the wheel, there is probable cause, which means that any search is reasonable. I'm just as weary about the police as anybody, but drunk driving is stupid and dangerous, and the people saying it should be legal are out of their minds. It was legal once, and was outlawed for a reason, and a good one at that.

    The only people I personally know who were killed as a result of someone elses actions, were killed by drunk drivers.

    In response to the op, I support the eradication of feral hogs, and reject the idea that speeding should be a felony. Pretty much everyone speeds at least a little bit. I don't know about 85, but I like the 70 mph speed limit, with an allowance by the police for slightly higher speeds on highways (5-10) I just worry that setting it at 85, people would still speed, but would then by going 90-95, which in my opinion is approaching dangerous.
     
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    Many highways in Texas are safe for 85 MPH travel. Heck, most interstate highways (with the exception of high traffic areas) are safe for 90+ MPH travel.

    Hogs are a major agricultural pest. He's signing a law that allows pests to be dealt with as pests.

    Also, all of those were passed by the State Legislature, they aren't executive orders. Perry is just going along with the way the representatives of the people wanted. That is the way our system works.
     
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    Says the person with "420" in their username.

    What about people smoking weed and driving? Or people taking prescription drugs or even some OTC drugs?

    Drunk driving laws were created to generate revenue, not for public safety.
     
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    You're missing my point. The law will never be passed. Lawmakers speed just as readily as the rest of us.
     
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    Some highways are very desolate and 85 would not be unsafe in these circumstances.
     
     
    Hog hunting from a helicopter is mainly for thinning out the herds and herds and herds of hogs that are taking over. ItÂ’s amazing how many offspring can be created in just a year from one female hog.
     
     
    We called it grabbing when I was young but it is illegal in most states because it isn't sporting. I guarantee you grab a 70 lb-up catfish in waste deep water, the human doesn't have the advantage.
     
     
    Not sure what most of these other laws are but the biggest part of them is more of a creating revenue government scam than anything that is good for the state or a concern of public safety. Anybody who has been run in the ditch by an overzealous state trooper doing a bat turn in front of on coming traffic to get the guy who just passed him without his seatbelt on knows this all too well.
     
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    Personally I'd pay to watch idiots wrestle giant catfish after using their hands for bait.


    Like many of the other comments, both pro and con for the speed limit thing, I think it's all just evidence that we need better fuel taxes.
    But I've always been a tax-the-externalities guy.

    No, he's not okay. But he does have a high chance of being president, sadly.

    I'm okay with raising the speed limit.
    But we should put a higher tax on fuel so when you waste it by going over the optimal speed limit, you pay more for the privilege.


    I agree kind of.
    The problem is that, at least in Michigan (where we've got a hog problem), the hogs were introduced FOR hunting.
    Hunt the (*)(*)(*)(*) things, but they ought to crack down on the people who bring them in in the first place.
     
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    The state has probably done many studies on it. Look it up.
     
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    It might actually be safer to raise the speed limit since people will be paying more attention.
     

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