Ron Paul in third place, polls say

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  1. LiamMcGoldrick

    LiamMcGoldrick New Member

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    I think Ron Paul would save this country from its government, BUT for that same reason he will never be president. Let me tell you why its very simple and its called fiat money. Fiat money is money from the National Reserve given directly to powerful men as "loans". This loans are never paid back and are used as means to control the economy in ways i could talk about for hours but thankfully others have. This fiat money is made possible due to the fact that the American dollar is not backed by gold therefore creating it is as simple as clicking a button, therefore so is inflation. So if inflation is as easy as clicking a button and your a elite member of society in need of money for a quick bailout why would you not use it after all if you end up failing Washington will bail you out anyways. Ron Paul believes we should return to backing our dollar with gold. I began reading about him when i heard someone mention him briefly. i was very excited when reading his views until i read of this. When i read this my heart sank because i knew he had no hope at this point and if he did by some landslide win he would be assassinated just as Lincoln was for fighting the national reserve. Makes you proud to be an American does it not.
     
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    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    Does he have to dominate the other men with force and run to audience to find women so he can drag them to his cave by their hair? :)
     
  3. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a flat out lie.Sean Hannity who has set-up a fund for
    Military famalies of slain soldiers and Rush Limbaugh has a
    Military charity as well are both proponents of a strong active Military.
    Ron Paul is not.Paul is just living off his service record and a few
    examples of naming Vets as Hero's.yes,Ron Paul served his country and
    Sean and Rush did not.But in Paul's day,it was a pretty no brainer
    to serve.
     
  4. sh777Mtl

    sh777Mtl New Member

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    Hippie lover? Shut up? Educated and hard to counter response, but I'll try.

    Explain the 9-9-9 plan to me. Is Mitt Romney pro-life? Who did Rick Perry support 10 years ago? What is an executive order? What is your understanding of the current monetary system? Explain to me how we became entangled in Iran, Iraq. What are our ties to Saudi Arabia? Bin Laden? Sadaam Hussein? What does the Federal Reserve do? How many American soldiers have died in the middle east since 9/11? How many muslim terrorist attacks have there been on Sweden, Norway or Finland in the last 100 years?

    We're not in the 4th grade, don't bother throwing insults around with no arguments or any evidence of a basis for your opinions. I don't even care what you comment on, it can be anything and I'll try to listen to your point of view, as long as you have something substantial to back up what is dribbling out of you mouth. "Ron Paul should be a man" doesn't qualify. Think about it, what the hell does that even mean?
     
  5. sh777Mtl

    sh777Mtl New Member

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    Proponents of a "strong, active miiltary" = busy fighting wars and getting killed.

    I agree, Hannity and Limbaugh are both in support of this. Paul supports keeping troops alive by not wrecklessly entering wars.

    PS: Sorry for breaking my promise of not responding to you until you started writing in sentences.
     
  6. MissJonelyn

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    No he just needs a real voice. A man's voice. Like Bill O Reilly.
     
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    sh777Mtl New Member

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    Ohhhh... ok, I get it now, you are one of those antagonistic sarcastic posters.
     
  8. MissJonelyn

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    Maybe you should try to do the second suggestion.

    Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.

    Shut up or Hippie Lover isn't an insult...Not to me anyway. Idiot is on the other hand...I get in trouble a lot of saying it.

    I don't value your input, or stream or thought for that matter. Would have never given you the time of day if you didn't respond to me actually.

    Again stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
     
  9. MissJonelyn

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    Not really. I'm pretty much a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who doesn't care about anyone but herself. Why should I? I'm awesome.
     
  10. sh777Mtl

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    Are you actually serious? I mean, are you really this narrow minded and unintelligent or is this just like a tongue in cheek thing and you are trying to wind people up.

    I have never seen you provide a fact or any piece of information to back up anything you have said on this board. Honestly, I am very serious in asking this, do you know anything about the views you have chosen to shout about? Is shut up and "this is too stupid to respond to" all you have. It's like you are telling me pigs can fly, but you have no evidence, you've never seen them fly, you just really believe that they can and don't want to even enter a discussion about why you believe it.
     
  11. MissJonelyn

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    Yes

    Well it is the Elections & Campaign section.

    I hear 9 - 9 - 9 is the wave of the future or the Apocalypse since when you turn it upside down you get 6 - 6 - 6.

    I say the term economic illiterate, intellectual weight weight a lot. My favorite is dummy.

    Evidences of what? Ron Paul not being a Real Man? Well look at him. He sounds like a Hippie. No one respects him as an authority figure. His only purpose in life is to make me laugh. And the moment that happens I'm taking his quote off my signature.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fOUb9YZYUM"]Ron Paul the Hippie[/ame]
     
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    Is Romney pro life ?
    Try reading about how and why he changed and RULED AS GOVERNOR.
    He came down on the side of life every time.

    But wait..he changed positions ?
    Yes ..Just as Perry and Paul have switched partys and who they voted for in past elections.

    and he switched to the right side..
    Paul still wont support the Republican nominee for President.
    He is a fraud...stealing TV time from true Republicans then crying like a Baby that he is ignored.

    and keeping 8% of campaign war chest is not cool in my book..Financial advisers with that amount charge 1 %.
    Along with his phony anti earmarks..Iran stance..the guy is TOAST.

    Be brave ..call it like it is.and you did.:)
     
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    Well he doesn't have the booming voice of Bill but, Bill has qualities not so desirable in being respectful and debating overall. In my opinion I find that I'd rather have a soft spoken man rather than a loud jerk as my leader.
     
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    Your definition of a "man" is clearly someone that would prefer to promote militarism and support the wars that serve no benefit to our country and in fact waste trillions of dollars and the lives of our troops.

    You are expressing childish views on serious matters. A "real man" as you put it should be a man with integrity and remain consistent in his ideals and principles. A "real man" should not promote the loss of life in order to denounce the notion of liberty overseas while under the ruse of spreading democracy.

    If a hippie is someone that believes in the ideals of the constitution, freedom, liberty, and does not support wasting money and lives to force someone else to believe as I do, then I too am a hippie.
     
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    Not quite sure how that video portrays him as weak... Maybe you need to go deeper into your reasoning for the majority of us to understand where you are coming from. Don't list him off as a hippie sounding... Because that's too vague overall.
     
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    Ron Paul is ALL Theory.He's like that Martian Dennis Kucinich talked
    about in their democrat presidential debates.
    I can't take Paul seriously.I want someone grounded.Paul constantly
    talks about things as if they need overhauls.
    Seems to me,this Capitalism program worked pretty well until
    Democrats started to tinker and abuse.If this system was so
    bad and flawed then how did Barack & Michelle manage to stroke it
    into the White House.
    Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth.
    He's both a gambler and a bookie and someone who constantly
    welshes.When are you people gonna understand that.
    Obama is PURE Fraud.
     
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    Well, at least you made points, as invalid as they are proving to be.

    I keep hearing you spout off about this corrupt campaign war chest business, but despite some research, I can't find anything about it. Do you have links?

    Also, please, please explain how his anti-earmark stance is hypocritical in any way. Show me where he has gone against his principles.

    As for the fact that Ron Paul doesn't blindly side with the Republicans. This is not flip flopping. This is staunchly standing by your convictions to the extent of refusing to support unprincipled candidates just because of the banner they fly under.

    I would imagine Paul simply believes that there is very little difference between a Romney and an Obama, so why support him just to be Red?

    PS: What is a "true Republican" in your books? What do they stand for? What have they historically stood for?
     
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    To be fair, Dennis Kucinich is on record as saying he would take Ron Paul as his running mate... just saying.

    Can you explain to me when this well working Capitalist system started, and when exactly the Democrats ruined it? Did George Bush tinker with it at all? Are you suggesting we had true Capitalism until Barrack arrived? (PS: what does "Barack & Michelle stroked it into the White House" mean?)

    What is wrong with saying something needs an overhaul? That is like if I was a mechanic and your car wasn't running. I told you that it needs a new engine and a new transmission, and you simply said to me "whoa, whoa, you're being a little drastic there, just give 'er an oil change and I'll have the tow truck bring 'er back to my garage."
     
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    He does sound like a Hippie. If you don't like it why don't you try putting a voice over on his tape and see if it helps. It most likely will help.
     
  20. DA60

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    What possible difference does it make what a presidential candidates voice sounds like?

    Are you saying that if a guy has all the answers (not that I am saying Paul does) that you and/or America will not vote for him because his voice is not manly enough?
     
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    Contrary to unpopular belief but people like candidates who are relate-able. Ron Paul may have all the answers but he doesn't appeal to the masses. He is too much of a hippie...And a loon.
     
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    So you are saying then that no - if a guy has all the answers (not that I am saying Paul does) that you and/or America will not vote for him because his voice is not manly enough?

    Noted.
     
  23. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An Overgaul means to keep the engine.The engine block and the main
    internals.Just clean it out and replace the O-rings,the head gasket clean
    off the pistons and valves,check the rods.Ron Paul wants to eliminate
    and due away with things that are part of our established way of
    capitalism.Like the Fed.We can vote out a fed chairman and make sure
    the Fed board of 12 are made accountable.
    We can due away with the dept. of Energy.The Dept. of Education.
    But Paul has no way to explain what he'll use in their place besided his
    States Rights ballyhoo.Paul doen't think past the outside of an engine when
    he stresses an overhaul.I think he's basically wingin' it like a Professor.
     
  24. MissJonelyn

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    Pretty much. Ron Paul has the answers we need but no one really respects him as an authority figure.
     
  25. sh777Mtl

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    Please don't vote.
     

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