Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

which is your problem

 

Even better yet, who was James talking to here?

James 4:8
Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Of course he was talking to Christians and calling them sinners!

1Jn chapter 3 talks about those who practice sin and those who practice righteousness. It certainly doesn't say that Christians don't sin unless you really think John is contradicting himself when he says "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." Children of God do not continue in the practice of sin, for they have become dead to it, having nailed it to the cross. But children of God certainly do sin.

 

you know and trust in gods help to translate? even though there are dozens of different translations? did your god forget the original meaning of the words he inspired 2,000+ years ago? if god is helping with the translation, he seems to have a poor memory.

 

I am a former christian.

 

Then Christians aren't saved from sin. Right?

And how exactly does one sin without "continuing in the practice of sin"?

 

Christians aren't perfect, they're forgiven. I fear you are in for a tremendous fall because you believe you don't sin.

 

I never said they were.

I don't claim to be either sinless or a Christian. In any case, rather than worry about me, you might consider that someone who thinks he is saved when he isn't is like a man who has sense enough to bring a gun to a gunfight, but not sense enough to make sure it's loaded.

 

Some new for you.
I became a born again christian then left after a year - that was about 20 years ago.

When i was part of it they always talked about christians whom had 'abandoned the faith', their was never any teaching they were still christians.
I would be need to be 'saved again'.

Therefore your interpretation isnt 'the christian teaching', its just your view.

By the way, the way you present yourself and communicate your christian views and beliefs would never have been regarded as acceptable in my born again evangelical church, as you communicate yourself harshly and use hostile language.
It was all about the langauge of love and compassion, even when addressing topics you dont agree with.
(im not referring to your posts to me, but others i have read)

 

ok, thats the translations covered.

but if these men wrote the bible with the spirit of god, why did god write different bibles for different factions of the christian church?

and why did he write a bible which is so unclear that you take meanings of passages to mean different things to what other christians say?

 

Heb. 10:38....God has been displeased with a lot of believers in their walk of faith. This doesn't mean they lose their salvation. It may result in a judgement from God. It may result in death here. But not loss of salvation. Had you read the next verse, it would have helped.

"But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." (vs39)

1Tim. 5:12...This concerns younger women who present themselves in service to the Lord. This is a warning to not accept them as they will more than likely marry, and turn from their faith to Christ to serve their husbands.

They are not denying Christ. They are not becoming unbelievers. They chose to rather serve their husbands. But because they offered themselves to God, and then turned, then it is a judgement against them. '(*)(*)(*)(*)ation' here is not eternal (*)(*)(*)(*)ation. It is a judgement against them. Because having turned from their origial faith, they give Satan something to mock and reproach God with.

I will get back with the rest.

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Col. 1:22-23...The act of reconciliation places the believer in a position of peace with God. Now begins a walk whereby God is growing the believer and removing the sins and affects of sin in his life. With the goal of presenting him unblameable in His sight. This is not eternal life. Its presenting the believer as, not sinless, but true to all that he knows to do and true to what he knows to stay away from. And if the believer continues in the faith, this will be accomplished, but if he doesn't, then it won't. Still saved.

Yes, the verses that I gave show you that faith is not yours. Where does it say God takes it back? It's not the believers to lose.

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This is not about individual salvation. Salvation was to the Jews as a people. When they rebelled against God, God turned from them, a people. All who were saved among these Jews, were still saved. But God turned from the Jewish people to offer salvation to the Gentiles.

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of course I do. i was a christian for 19 years. I no longer am. which is why I'm a FORMER christian.

 

of course there is. I used to be a christian, I no longer am. making me a FORMER christian.

 

Well, there are many languages.

No, the Words God gave are known to Him. And given to us. And the work of translation begins. Some translations will be better than others. Somet translations will be wrong, due to the intent of those translating. But, we have the manuscripts always to compare to, to guard against error.

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No such thing.

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Conerning your comments inside my quote: In these verses I gave it is clear that ones faith comes from God. It's not yours to lose.

Exactly. There is no reference to people who lose their faith.

Exactly again. There is no reference to those who leave, because they can't leave being a Christian.

Your not paying attention. Matt. 16:13-20 and Eph. 2:9 shows that ones faith comes from God.

I may well be at odds with your church. Perhaps your church should do a little more investigation.

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Communist Goals (1963)

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

.......funny ain't it.

 

God didn't write diffrent Bibles. God gave the revelation we have.

There are not that many Bibles, when it comes to the translation of a single language. There are not that much differences.

God gave the Bible for believers to study and know His will in their walk in this life. Some will be at different levels of understanding. All Christians have much to learn in the Bible. Some cease to study and simply want to be satisfied with the basics. God has written the Bible in a way in which study must be made to progresss in its knowledge with the guiding of the Holy Ghost.

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No such thing.

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