Neo Nazis murdered 10 people in 7 years.

A purged society cant murder 523.977 Turks 1910-1922 in Anatolia.Soviet and Russian archives exposes many of falsified Armenian claims and no they dont hand out documents.Their archives are closed.Your genocide stories are not believable enough because you dramatize it and still cant write anything historical.Political decisions mean nothing."This happened that happened".You are a typical western whose brain is programed in a certain way.Talking to you is like trying to explain something to a brick wall.

 

Common, don't pretend to be blind, we are talking about the genocide 1915, nobody stated that the Ottoman Empire from the beginning to the end had nothing better to do than slaughter Armenians. Of course they were allowed to convert, but in WWI they were simply to die and there was nothing which could have saved them.

The Turkish community is backed by Turkish officials, they are backed not to learn German as first language and not to integrate. If any woman's rights activist from the Turkish community is fighting against killings of honours or violence against women in Muslims families (s)he will be accused and attacked by Turkish officials. As long as Turkish officials act like that, I cannot draw a line between Turkey and the Turkish community here.

That you of course think that the German society is worse was clear, you don't need to mention it.

 

You are joking. 1922 there was just a few Armenian left in Anatolia.
Maybe you should stop dramatizing your own Turkish fabrications and face serious sources.

Which Armenian massacres exactly are you talking about.

They did, but you will deny it anyway.

You don't want to call that nonsense you give us here historical, do you?

Yes, seeing the things rational and rely on relyable sources. I mean whats that for a silly fabrication, that 523.977 Turks were killed.

Do you think it makes it more reliable that you know the exact number??? Even the victims of the Holocaust you cannot give that exact although the Germans tried to protocol everything as exactly as possible and made it easy for historians.

But no, you are giving the number 523.977 Turks that were killed. Not plus or minus ten, no. So that's the prove how reliable Turkish historians are??? What do you want to prove by such nonsense, everyone with the slightest idea of historical research see that this number is created.

Maybe you can give us a reliable source for that exact number?

 

http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/massacres/lists.html

Now dont cry anymore.

You are such a thick head for denying everything different than your brain was programed with.Its just pathetic.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qForZRFT9M&feature=related"]The massacred Anatolian Turks and all the evidence - YouTube[/ame]

Maybe you can call this a lie too...

 

I did not call this a lie, I call it a lie when you state that there were 523.977 victims. Even the Armenian hate page you gave me does not work with exact numbers but with estimations like 30 000, 10 000 and so on.

Furthermore your hate list starts in 1914. You were telling here these massacres started in 1912. Why you did this is most obvious, you wanted to take these out of the context of WWI, pretending that even in peace times Armenians had nothing to do but slaughtering Turks. That's the trick with your Turk propaganda, if Armenians were such monsters as you paint them instead of human beings and if a reader would buy your propaganda stuff, he would agree that there would have been no alternative to purge the Ottoman Empire from them.

It's your intention that's shining through, you are instrumentalizing crimes committed against Turks to spread hate, to justify your own crimes and if I see how Erdogan and Gül talks I fear even to justify new one. I can show you thousands of massacres and war crimes against Germans during WWII, if you take out the historical context, if you leave out the scales of your own war crimes and exaggerating the others or furthermore deny your own, it is very easy to present other ethnic groups as monsters.

 

I think I figured out what kind of thread this is. Its the usually thread type with to sole purpuse to accuse and bash a certan people or society. The starter of the thread directlly accused the german state and people to allow and support these murders. Thus giving the starting point to a long serie of accusations and bashing on both sides.
This is not meant to discuss a problem like a thread should be about.

You know, I personally think that this kind o threads really suck and only serve to deteriorate the already damaged relations between the german and the turkish community.

You should be ashamed of youself Haydar.

 

I love the self made victim hood. 7 people died due to their race to neo nazi's meanwhile white etnic Europeans are targeted by Muslim immigrants based on their religion. When we point this out there is a big silence. Why cant we start a huge deportation round. 1 criminal act? Back to turkey, Iraq, Somalia. No place in a modern western state, back to the backwards hills or desert.

 

LoL @ hate page.The back ground of Armenian issue goes back to late 1800's.First search the activities of Armenian commitees in Anatolia,assasination attempt against Sultan Abdulhamid and Ottoman bank raid in Istanbul and also search how Armenian uprisings started even 10-15 years ago from 1915.Even that video I posted would give an idea because it happened all over Anatolia.

Including my mother's uncle's grandfather who was beheaded by Armenians in front of his family.Yet you are so programed and blindly convinced that you call numbers from offical goverment archives a hate list.Thats just hopeless.You Germans are dumb.

 

Sure,with a slight bit of difference.If a few nationalists killed 7 Germans or Dutch.You would get furious and use it against Turkey for 100 years.But its ok when it happens in the west.Who knows what happened so those poor neo nazis got mad.

 

I wait for the comment of "The Turk" explaining that such statements have nothing to do with racism.

 

There is no such thing as a race.

 

Sure there is. You can't say that blacks in Africa and european caucasians are the same. They are two races of the same species.

 

Sure Germans are dumb. That's why they were revolutionary in every single field in the world be it science or arts.

 

Race is political term.There are genetics and anthropology.Race is not a scientific field.

 

Ah and you want to prove by that there isno such a thing as racism. Lol.

 

Race has nothing to do with politics. It's a part of Genetics as you said and although it's not a scientific field in itself, it is part of one.

 

A Islamist stabbed a Christian priest at broad daylight, where was the exact outcry?

Everyone in Germany condemned it, but somehow Germany as a whole must apologize to every turk in order for it to be alright, these are not Ottoman times, you are not an Ubermensch as much as you would like to be.

 

I'm in the Uk and ill say it then


Bringing in immigrants of a different ethnicity is detrimental to the well being, safety, and living standards of Europeans. It is also inherently damaging to the social cohesion of society.

 

the Immigrants tend to have a backwards culture. which is why their nations tend to be failed states which never contribute anything to mankind.

 

[video=youtube;vx6b_cveqYY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6b_cveqYY[/video]

[video=youtube;RS5UzLsyB8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS5UzLsyB8c[/video]

A witness described Beate Zschäpe, one of five alleged neo-Nazis on trial for crimes associated with the National Socialist Underground (NSU) terror cell as “a lovely neighbour” in court on Wednesday. The man said he'd had little contact with Zschäpe's flatmates Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Böhnhardt, who together with Zschäpe are thought to have formed the nucleus of the NSU killer cell. She had told her neighbours that one of them was her boyfriend, the other her brother – but the witness hadn't known their names and had never asked. In the end though, the “good neighbour” is thought to have set the whole house on fire - prosecutors say taking the neighbours' deaths, including that of an 89-year-old woman who also lived in the building, as possible collateral damage. When her two male accomplices died in a murder-suicide in early November 2011, Zschäpe is accused of pouring petrol all over their shared flat and igniting it, setting off an explosion so strong that part of the building's outside wall blew off.

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130725-51037.html

 

Did those ten people rape anyone? Di the nazis kill them because they had done something bad or just because of their race? Ask yourself this before you decide if nazis are good or bad people.

 

There are not any proofs that it were neo-nazis, just relax yourselves and wait for the end of trial.