News Flash - Cain to suspend campaign

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  1. Bluesguy

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    And he had already been losing support before that and that was a short lived incident and NOT why he suspended his campaign nor shut off the money flow.

    The question remains why was the alleged behavior an issue at all.
     
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    Cain himself bragged about receiving more money from supporters AFTER the revelation on sexual harrassement than before!

    The Libya moment was a lot more damaging to him than any allegations, because it clearly showed to everyone that he can't function under pressure.


    Suspending his campaign came because he finally realize he was going NO WHERE, and that the "boom" in fund raising he experienced AFTER the sexual harrassement allegations was not going to happen again, especially not after the very poor way he handled ALL the allegations.

    Beating up on ONE woman for the revelation is one thing, beating up on ALL the women who came forward, and admitting that he "played around" (whether sexual or not) for 13 years behind his wife's back certainly didn't help his credibility! But his lack of knowledge about ANYTHING but "9-9-9," and his refusal to answer any issue with anything else than "9-9-9" really did him in.

    But. . .he is smart enough to not have ENDED his presidential bid. . .so he COULD keep the "money flow" going. ..contrary to your statement!
     
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    Cain, come back!
     
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    Excellent post as always.

    Being a humble guy, I would not deign to speak for "Democrats" or "leftist".
     
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    Remember when Cain called the ultraconservative billionaires (the Koch brothers) his "brothers from another mother" ????
     
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    And he started his slide before the second scandal hit, the day after his embarrassment over Lybia, and it accelerated after the foreign policy debate, also before the second scandal.
     
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    Spot on, in all respects.
     
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    Don't hold your breath.
     
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    Blacks in Georgia have turned on him and the Koch Brothers are silent.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Libya was long ago forgotten. Let me see how many times have I heard ANY political annalist, pundit or reporter try to state that Lybia is why he suspended his campaign. Had the last woman not gone public he'd still be a top tier candidate.

    So again why is Clinton held in such esteem, so admired when his sexual misbehavior were FAR more sleazy and egregious?
     
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    ROFL yeah I'll the reports are he suspended his campaign because of his Libya gaffe.

    Oh that you guys would even try to claim that is hilarious.

    So why does Clinton get a bye for his behaviors but not Cain?
     
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    The 13 year affair cooked him, no doubt. But his slide began prior to that, and his credibility with 999 and foreign policy had been destroyed.
    The buffoon had been revealed, and he was dropping like a rock.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    All of them in toto.

    Still avoiding why Clinton is held to such high esteem I see. Why was he allowed to serve by his political supporters? Why did and still does he get a bye on the outrageous things he did to women?
     
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    Probably because of his accomplishments.
    Also much of what he was accused of was never confirmed.
    I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that they weren't proved, except for Monica. Also, he was already elected, so the burden of proof was pretty high. When the court of public opinion convened on Clinton, the country was riding high and people were in a forgiving mood, thanks to their pocketbooks.
    Cain hadn't been elected to anything, ever, and people weren't willing to take his idiocy and then his apparent infidelity and have him be the standardbearer for the party. They apparently still aspire to more than Cain, and that speaks well for the Republicans.
     
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    Because Clinton, regardless of his sexual misconducts, proved that he was a real statesman. The economy flourished under his guidance, he didn't get us into any fake wars, and he was appreciated among world leaders also.

    Because, also, Hillary is a strong woman, who didn't play the victim, nor the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). She handled her husband indiscretions with strength and grace. And Clinton NEVER ran on a "family value," "hollier than god" platform.

    And still, it took years for Clinton to be appreciated to his full worth. . .he is enjoying more respect and support today than he ever was as a President!
    In fact, if he was able to run in the Presidential race today, he probably would win with overwhelming support from Democrats, Independents, and the a good section of the Republicans (with the exception of the Religious right, obviously!).
     
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    Because he lied - with style.

    Has he ever changed his view that fellatio is 'not having sex with that woman?.
     
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    I knew that the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) has no chance of success.
     
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    And that would mitigate his sexual misbehavior? And the Judge summarily dismissed his claims as such. His own lawyer asked him if there was sexual activity of any kind and Clinton said no.

    He committed perjury, and he also sexually harassed a subordinate employee and denied a state employee here rightful merit promotion in order to give the job to his mistress when she demand he get her a job. That is creating a hostile workplace, sexual harassment. An we know of the sex he was engaged in in the Oval Office, the total disrespect he showed towards the office to which he was elected.

    And he gets a bye and Cain suspends his campaign because of allegations.

    What's the difference here I'm missing?
     
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    Because today what Clinton did is no longer relevant. It's over, and he is judged on the things that had lasting effects on the population, i.e., his presidency.
    I'm sure you hated that, too, but that is still debated. His sexual history no longer impacts us as a people.
    Cain's impact was yet to be seen, and we are fairly sure he is denying at least some things that actually happened. I don't think anyone credibly doubts that.
    So our disdain for Cain is pre-emptive. For Clinton, it's a history lesson now.

    Besides, I think foreign policy had already doomed Herman. He was a sham.
     
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    The difference? The question I asked. Did Clinton ever change his views on what he constituted as 'sex'? Not what the Judge thinks, not what you think, not what anyone else thinks but what Clinton thinks.
     
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    News Flash - Cain to suspend campaign

    Good...his 9-9-9 plan was just going to tax the American poor/middle class even more then they are now.
     
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    The "Cain vs Obama" poll numbers before the fake accusations said otherwise.
     
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    No, they call blacks who are not democrats either stupid or uncle toms.
     
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    Link?

    the polls NEVER showed Obama losing to Cain.

    In fact, most polls show Obama either even or ahead of ALL the GOP candidates in national polls.
     

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