Israel to attack Iran by Christmas – report

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  1. Oddquine

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    That would be because the majority of those in the Zionist Congresses which actually decided on where the Jewish State would be were religious enough to think that "next year in Jerusalem" at the end of a Passover seder actually meant that...but not as religious as those anti-Zionist Jews who interpreted it as a God-given promise when they had fulfilled what God expected of them....and nothing that could be handed to them on a plate by a country with an agenda.

    Makes one wonder what Israelis now say at the end of the Passover seder in Jerusalem in Israel, doesn't it?
     
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    It's a fair question.

    Perhaps, in part at least, because they knew that only by demanding that particular region, would they later be able to sucker the Christians of the then emerging super power - the US.

    I believe that other land was offered, and rejected. Seriously, do you think Zionists would have been able to dupe American Christians for decades, had they been gracious enough to accept ANY other land?

    It is only by demanding and getting that area of land, that they have been able to trick many Christians in the US into making them disproprtionately powerful, in a military sense, and every other sense.

    There is nothing spiritual, charitable, benevolent or fraternal about Zionism, it seems to stand for greed, enslavement, theft, arrogance, etc.

    If Zionism has any sort of religous element, then might I suggest that it's not Judaism - it's more likely what people would expect from Satanism. The Zionist flag looks like a Satanic symbol.
     
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    Aye to that. It's pleasant to realize that the Internet will, inevitably if ' uncontrolled ', dispel that particular ignorance and expose what Zionism has become.
     
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    Comaraden, can anyone tell me where the Bund meeting is going to held?
     
  5. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    I am no fan of any government, all are evil by default. However some are more evil than others. Most nations can be judged of how they treat their prisoners and undesirables. Tell me would you rather be a prisoner in any Islamic country that practices Shari law, or any dictatorship say north Korea or even Russia or in the USA?

    What has taken hold of the USA is we are fed up with terrorism. And threats valid or not create unity, which you are seeing the results of some unity. Lastly our politicians know where the power lies in block voting. The Christian right is not as powerful as it was in its heyday but it’s still a juggernaut that no politician will anger. As I have said many times the war of the west vs. the east has never ended, the crusades were a symptom of that war and the USSR falling is another. The culture of the west is what makes the Islamic radicals angry, the culture and the religion of the west. They are in reality envious and fearful and that fear often turns to anger which results in terrorism. It’s that simple.

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    Excellent article

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/06/iran-war-drums-terry-jones
     
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    Christians Zionists such as myself support Israel because we are spiritual beings and feel our paradigm is as real as a seculars or atheist paradigms. By Paradigm I mean the method that one extrapolates reality from our five senses and environmental influences, in simple terms its a model of reality.

    We feel that Israel is owned by God not man.* Additionally for the same reasons, biblical and other supporting evidence we claim the Jewish people are Gods chosen people. Israel was prophesied to emerge with the precept that the Jewish people would be recalled to their homeland which is happening**. I know that atheists and seculars will heartily or hatefully disagree, however the evidence is there***. The USA exists because of Israel not Vice versa. Why has Israel been so successful in war? In making the desert bloom?

    * Genesis 23:1-20. Prophecy fulfilled: About 2600 years ago

    ** Bible prophecy: Ezekiel 34:13Prophecy written: Between 593-571 BC


    *** 1. Jacob's descendants would regain control of Israel

    2. Israel would be brought back to life

    3. Isaiah spoke of a Israel being reborn in one day Bible passage: Isaiah 66:7-Written: between 701-681

    4. Israel would be re-established as a united nation Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:21-22

    5... Ezekiel predicted when Israel would be re-established Bible passage:
    Ezekiel 4:3-6 Written: between 593-571 BCFulfilled: 1948

    6.... Israel's army would be disproportionately powerful Bible passage: Leviticus 26:3, 7-8 Written: around 1400 BC Fulfilled: 1948-49, 1967, etc.


    7..Bible passage: Amos 9:14-15. Written: about 750 BC Fulfilled: Since 1948

    At least four more prophesies have been fulfilled and many more that have yet to be fulfilled. I can understand someone thinking one of these predictions being self fulfilling prophesy (but I doubt it) however not all of them could be coincidence or self fulfilling.

    Rev A
     
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    I would be all for pulling out of all extra-USA military bases and allow Europe and the rest of the world to defend themselves. I agree its too expensive to protect those that have gleefully been backstabbing our country. We are being attacked by the very people that begged us to come to their rescue in WW2. I hope we elect a president that recognizes that value of isolationism such as Ron Paul*, however our pro one world government citizens are not the sharpest crayons in the box. Isolationism and capitalism made the USA the richest most powerful nation on earth. Now that we are beginning to embrace Marxist socialism and a ‘we are a citizen of the world‘ one worldism, the erosion of everything that made the USA great is evident and destroying our country right before our eyes.

    * Paul claims not to be an isolationist rather he claims to be a non expansionist. That’s a start. We should eliminate the job robbing NAFTA as well as start taxing imports from China until we can refuse all trade with the world, but that would take decades to achieve.

    Rev A
     
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    Your post proves that Zionists are more crazy and more dangerous religious fanatics than any radical Muslims.
     
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    Very true and very worrying
     
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    Don't worry I, or mine will not be killing thousands of non combatants in a cowardly terrorist sneak attack. I can not think of one Christian radical that has killed even a hundred people in recent history.

    Rev A
     
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    Radical Zionists (be they Jewish or Christian religious fanatics) killed millions of innocent civilians via coward bombardments and deliberate starvation (Holodomor in Russia, bombardments of Japan and Germany, Morgentau Plan, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq etc etc ) and ethnic cleansing like in Palestine... not to mention the killing of Native Americans and the enslavement of Black Africans.

    Muslims do not have such a dismal record of reckless murderers.
     
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    I hope my descendants live to see a world rid of the obscenity of stone-age, idol-worshipping religious lunatics, who use man-made mythical 'gods' for every excuse in their sad, empty little lives.
    One day bibles, q'rans, torahs and their pathetic ilk will be nothing more than quaint museum exhibits, shown as warnings of how the idiocy of religion has damaged the world more than any other single thing.
     
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    Is this "unqualified" support or are considerations related to the violations of the inalienable Rights of the Individual such as the denial of the Right of Citizenship, the violations of the Right of Property and the denial of the Right of Individual Sovereignty of the non-Jewish population of Palestine by Israel something that should be condemned by all People including the supporters of the nation of Israel?

    I have a real problem with the "unqualified" support of any political entity regardleess of the tyranny that entity imposes any individual which has always been my objection to the actions of the government of Israel and the zionists. Always remember that the British Mandate for Palestine did not establish a Jewish state but instead invited Jews to share a homeland with the existing population in Palestine and prohibited the violation of the civil Rights of the non-Jewish population by the Jews migrating to Palestine. The Zionists ignored these conditions of the Mandate in the founding of Israel where they use force and coercion to expell a significant percentage of the non-Jewish population. They've continued this with the civilian occupation of the West Bank, Golan Heights and Jerusalem in violation of international law and their treaty obligations and UN resolutions.

    Can the violation of the inalienable Rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine by Israel really be supported?
     
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    Oh boy what a self admitted revelation of your education! You do not know the difference between war and terrorism, nor do you know the USA is a secular nation by law. If you have to go back 200 + years to find a crime I suggest you live in that era that you have no first hand knowledge of. Lastly what nation hasn’t at sometime in their history committed acts of barbarism etc. Try again to spread your Islamo-propaganda. BTW I agree that radicals are criminals when they cross over the line of law. Lastly, Radical Muslims sure do have such a record, including a historical record of atrocities, unless you equate beheading school girls with jaywalking.

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    who is?

    James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 mass suicide of 909 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip.

    Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.

    The incident in Guyana ranks among the largest mass murders/mass suicides in history, and was the single greatest loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001. Among the dead was Leo Ryan, who remains the only Congressman assassinated in the line of duty as a Congressman in the history of the United States.



    who is adolf hitler

    who are the bush babies (2 presidents)

    Tim Mcveiigh................?


    Need we mention the pedophiles within the clergy of which christian sect?



    but the worst, is that the christian sects allow LIARS to lie out the gazoo and who is holding them accountable?
     
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    Except for scope there really isn't much of a difference between the two. Both entail violent acts against people to achieve a political objective. The only fundamental difference, as noted, relates to scope as wars are far more devastating than acts of terrorism. Acts of terrorism, with a few notable exceptions, generally affect a very small number of individuals rarely exceeding 100. Wars, on the other hand, often affect hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of people. A comparison of the casualities of each exemplifies this fact.
     
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    What you 'feel', is no basis to draw factual conclusions, let alone permit it to be an excuse to for the routine and habitual persecution, displacement, and debasement of other human beings.

    Christian Zionists are an affront to the name of Jesus.

    Everything they stand for is not the philosophy of Christ.

    Mouthpieces like John Hagee, a well known, and v rich (at the expense of utter mugs), he preaches a message that is greatly at odds with that of Jesus.

    The polar opposite.
     
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    WTF???????????

    The US exists 'because of Israel'?

    What are you talking about, fecking hell, you Zionists will steal credit for everything, and now....the very existance of America!

    What a joke.
     
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    WTF?

    Really.

    How many did Himmler and Hitler kill, by their own hand?

    None. So does that exempt them from criticism? Of course not, for it appears that they ordered much of what happened. I suppose people did not need follow the orders, but they did, and still do. People can be manipulated to do terrible things. There are experiments that have proven this. Hitler thought that he was doing the work of god, as well, funnily enough.

    But I suppose HE was CLEARLY mad, while the Zionists who engineer perpetual conflict and the humiliation of human beings are totally sane, with their ramblings. Yes?
     
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    100% concise and spot on.
     
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    Peter Ustinov invented a good definition of terrorism and war.


    'Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich.'


    Besides that the terrorism in Palestine began with the Jewish terrorism, and many prominent Zionists admitted, that if they were Palestinians, they would become terrorists.



    USA was founded by religious fanatics who believed that they were "New Jews", that America was "New Israel", and that Native Americans were "Canaanites", who must be killed or expelled.



    That "Christian" tradition may explain why there are so many Zionist Christians in the USA.

    Normal Christians believe that "Christian Zionism" is a perversion of the Christian faith.
     
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    Oh my... Christian Zionism is based in Scofield Heresy...

    Israel hasn't really made the desert bloom.. They have dramatically mismanaged the available water resources.. that's why the Aquifers are ruined and the Jordan River is a cess pool.

    You might want to read up on Israel's water quality and chronic shortages.
     
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    Sublime quote, and spot on accurate.

    Those words will resonate with any intelligent person.

    And good post, btw.
     
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    http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1439/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8972

    Your Representative May Unwittingly Sabotage Diplomacy with Iran--Contact Them Today!


    The importance of diplomacy with Iran, from the mouth of Barack Obama as candidate for President.

    Later this week, the House is expected to vote on a new round of broad, indiscriminate sanctions against Iran. This time, however, there is a special surprise concealed in the bill's depths: a provision which would restrict contact, both official and unofficial, between US government employees and Iranian officials who “present a threat to the United States” or are affiliated with terrorist organizations.

    This provision, if enacted, would undermine present and future US efforts to diplomatically resolve outstanding issues not only over Iran's nuclear program but also the conflict in Afghanistan. Worst of all, the bill has 358 cosponsors—and many of them don't even know that they're supporting such a measure.

    Your Representative may unwittingly sabotage the possibility of a diplomatic solution with Iran unless they hear from you! Email your member of Congress today and tell them: don't undermine diplomacy with Iran—vote “no” on HR 1905, the “Iran Threat Reduction Act.”
     
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