The Athiest Zionist fascists murderers will be banning your church bells next because it wakes them up. No more calls to prayer in the Holy Land. Christians and Muslims have been ringing bells and calling to prayer for centuries. Bells are included surely too aren't they? Mr Pope in Rome Goldfinger in Saudi Al Thani in Qatar what do you have to say to the mentally sick ,antagonizing desperate for war, athiest zionist Israelis ? another mentally ill Israeli. Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/heal...calls+prayer/5848634/story.html#ixzz1gV8c1xJi
AbuSina, why don't you make threads about the conditions Christians need to suffer from in Egypt? At least in Israel churches aren't bombed and Christians aren't being attacked by the Israeli army either... Now, I hope you know I'm not a big fan of the Extreme-Right in Israel that's been calling the shots for the last two to three decades, but this thread stinks. As does your attitude. I'm sure you think you've exposed some sort of Western hypocrisy or whatever -- but at least me tell you that a lot of Europeans, the majority of Westerns, don't care that much about religion at all. If Israel wants to regulate the ringing of the chuch bells, let them do so -- but as I said earlier on, I think structural organized violence against Christians isn't at play in Israel, as it is in Egypt. Why don't you make threads about that, AbuSina? Kind regards, Jan
Because I live here and I know Christians and I know the truth. I work with them, I eat with them, they come to my house, I have Christian friends, and they live either side of me. You on the other hand dont live here so don't know the reality. For your information Maspero had hundreds of Muslims there with the Christians. They walked together hand in hand from Shubra etc to Maspero. Some eye witnesses say that baltageya started the problem in Maspero. Then there was a riot. I was not there and don't know and neither do you. If you knew anything about CSF and Army you could debate. If you knew about baltageya you could debate. If you knew the facts you could debate but you dont. Of the hundreds of thousands killed in Egypt Muslims made up the most under Mubarak. There is no genocide here of Christians. Only fools believe that rubbish. Only liars spread it. Tell me. How many Christians have been murdered for being Christian in Egypt in the last decade? Give me the figure? Church bells ring here. There are huge cathedrals here ringing bells and calling Christians to prayer. We are religious people both Christians and Muslims. Athiest zionists should for one thing not even be in control of the people of Palestine let alone dictating what calls to prayer are allowed in the Holy Land. They should go back to Europe where they belong and leave the people in peace in the Holy Land to pray as they want to however loud they want to.
Lol, you should read the posts of some morons on here claiming that Christians in Lebanon are 'systematically persecuted and oppressed.' Uneducated simpletons, the lot of them.
... AbuSina, I'm under the impression you are a rich Egyptian. You live in Heliopolis by any chance? BTW -- Heliopolis was created by Belgians in the early 1900's! Anyways, I do know the reality: Christians being attacked in Egypt, not so in Israel. I have no knowledge of burned churches in Israel the last year(s). How many curches were burnt in Egypt this year alone, AbuSina?
Exactly, some morons. Not everbody who doesn't live there. If I remember correctly, AbuSina said in the past that "the poor, dumb and illiterate Egyptians from the country side" need to be blamed.
I live far from Heliopolis. Do you equate Heliopolis with wealth? The wealthy moved out long ago and live in villas on the borders of the city in the new cities. I mean the really wealthy. Have you been to Heliopolis? You might be surprised to see trash there in the streets also just like Shubra. Zamalek and Heliopolis are no longer the wealthy places to live. The Baron Palais of Empain sits not in a beautiful area. How many churches burned in Egypt in 2011? I think two. Am I right? The one in Minya village and the one where the Jewish guy Ialn Grapel was filmed inciting violence in Imbaba. How many mosques have been bulldozed in Israel this year?
no if you are going to quote me then quote me in full please If you lived here you would know that there are many factors. I will list them here again. 1. Poor villagers fighting over a speed bump turning into a riot then discovering they are from different religions then it getting the religion label. 2. Ex Regime baltageya and CSF and Interior Ministry incting sectarian violence when there was political or social unrest to deflect attention. 3. Salafists causing mayhem attacking Sufi Muslims and anyone else who has no beard or short trousers in villages. Believe me the Sufi Muslims have it much worse than the Christians in the villages. 4. The church getting a permit to build a community centre then extending it to a church with no permission. 5. Coptic Christians converting to Islam because of their laws of divorce or whatever and then seeking shelter with Muslims and being attacked by bus loads of Christians from Alex etc ( Imababa incident ). 6. Coptic Christians in monasteries building walls on private people land and the army demolishing the illegal wall and returning the land to the owners. I am sure there may be more but there are not rampaging genocidal Muslims beating up or killing Muslims as you would like to believe. If there were explain why the currently leading Muslim Brotherhood the Freedom and Justice Party has a Coptic Christian as it's Vice President??? Explain why the MB had around one hundred Coptic Christians as the founder members of the party? Why in Allahs name if what you say is true would Coptic Christians join the MB who are currently running the lead in the polls and be out in the streets today asking people to vote for them. Why is the intellectual Dr Rafik Habib the renowned Coptic Christian VP of the Ikhwan for Gods sake????? This is the problem when you are talking about things here without knowing the reality of the life here. 4.
Do you know there was a recount of some districts from the first phase of voting? Shubra and Sahel mainly Coptic Christian peasant areas. Why? Because the votes counted a massive win for the MB, but why would that be in a Coptic C area??? There has been a recount ordered. But maybe the Coptic C's are voting for the Muslim Brotherhood. Is that strange to you? 1/5th of Egyptians are Coptic C's yet the MB are racing ahead. The Coptic Saweiris Party has done badly, very badly. Why is that? The Coptic tycoon is not gettng the votes he hoped for. To me sitting here we have more of a problem with the Saudi ideology than the MB one. Habib agrees. Egypts Muslims and Christians are both going to have to stand up and fight this Saudi influence. That will unite Egypt but then we have to ask ourselves this. Why does the West support the Saudi Wahabi ideology? Why such friends with such dangerous ideals/ Why they have no problem with the salafist Benghazi taking control of Libya and why have an ex AQ Salafist commander who was not so long ago bombing US and NATO in Iraq now leading the army in Tripoli? Strange dont you think..
Thousands of internet users have attacked the Facebook page of an Israeli lawmaker who has called for a ban on call to prayers (Adhan) at mosques in the occupied Palestinian territories. The Facebook page of Anastassia Michaeli, an Israeli MP and a member of Yisrael Beiteinu (Israel is Our Home) party, has been inundated with thousands of comments, links and audio/video files of Adhan after the Israeli official submitted a motion to the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, urging a ban on the calls to worship at mosques. The Facebook users have cautioned that this is just the beginning of the storm and that in case the broadcast of Adhan is prohibited, the call to prayers will be heard from all over the occupied territories, IRIB reported on Tuesday.
Yes, that is why the largest Lebanese Christian parliamentary group (in addition to being the second largest parliamentary bloc) is allied to Hezbollah. These are the uneducated individuals I'm referring to, Abu.
There is no reason to ring bells to 'call' people to prayer. People know to turn up, and they will. I wouldn't want bells ringing and waking me up, either.
