Turks in Ankara threaten France Republic:"Wait for us France, we will come."/genocide

What makes you to expect something different from that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) guy?

 

Cool story bro, that's why I say all this "genocide" bull(*)(*)(*)(*) crap lack historical facts and only aimed at political goals; you are not even aware of that the (Li)Armenians accuse Committee of Union and Progress (whom were Western-oriented secularists came to power via coup d'état) for their falsified genocide, are you?

 

I'm not a fan of the Ottoman Empire or most other government during that dark period in history but I believe people should have the right to deny the existence of anything.

 

It indeed is better approach than it, but I still don't think it is a fair way. The truth about is history should be job of historians, not politcans that contain seats in the UN. Jailing and and robbing €450.000 from people who say "I think it didn't happened exactly like this, but like that..." is as unfair as doing the same to those, for example: "I think Mr. ABC wasn't a good guy, I think he did this and that". How is that fair?

Welcome to the forum by the way.

 

I'm afraid not. You denied that the slaughter of North American Indian tribes was a genocide.

Take him down.

 

Most of what is labeled genocide is a cultural purge. Hitler went genocide on the Jews but moving people from one place to another is not genocide. Stalin did some genocide too.

Hitler's and Stalin's souls are tied together by red hot chains and they have just gotten started experiencing the torment that those people lived as they tried to eliminate their cultures.

 

not me, its international law denied that the slaughter of North American Indian tribes was a genocide.

 

wrong, it was started in XIX century,

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you are not in position to tell us what to do. you want to be a pert the civilized world (EU) so obey our rules, and laws. or get beck to the middle east , where you belong geographically and culturally

 

No, you denied that a genocide took place;

A State wherein denial of this genocide was against the law would convict you. How would it feel, going to jail for speaking what you believe to be true ?

 

do you see a difference between a preplanned genocide and unconnected range of the Indian massacres

 

if you change definition of genocide . and if if become a law... i would follow this law

 

I'm sorry, Litwin, but the prosecution does not recognize your defence.

Four years. Send him down.

 

Except for the fact that Moon does not represent the prosecution or understand the law....

Litwin, you are right.

 

you should now already about "Ex post facto law", so a prosecutor will recognize my "defense"

 

The turks have a long history of genocides and denial. while they whine at Israel the turks killed far more Kurds in the past 60 years then Israel killed Palestinians, despite that Israel was involved in a few wars during this time.

 

Which is why i stated "Ottomans" instead of "Turks"......, not the same

 

Yes, but the guy said "Turkey took part in..." which is why "Ottomans" was irrelevant...

 

whats wrong with this bill, its a fact that France has always mention only Armenians, they should lorn from Sweden.

http://www.thelocal.se/25468/20100311/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide
"The Assyrian Genocide (also known as Sayfo or Seyfo, Syriac: ܩܛܠܐ ܕܥܡܐ ܣܘܪܝܝܐ or ܣܝܦ&#1808 refers to the mass slaughter of the Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac population of the Ottoman Empire during the 1890s, the First World War, and the period of 1922-1925.[1][2] The Assyrian population of upper Mesopotamia (the Tur Abdin, Hakkari, Van, Siirt regions of present-day southeastern Turkey and the Urmia region of northwestern Iran) was forcibly relocated and massacred by Ottoman (Turkish) and Kurdish forces between 1914 and 1920.[1] Estimates on the overall death toll have varied. Contemporary reports placed the figure at 250,000.[1] Numerous scholars and journalists have accepted that figure. Some sources lacking a detailed statistical analysis claim figures as high as 750,000.[2][3]

The Assyrian genocide took place in the same context as the Armenian and Pontic Greek genocides.[4] In these events, close to three million Christians of Syriac, Armenian or Greek Orthodox denomination were murdered by the Young Turks regime.[1]

Since the "Assyrian genocide" took place within the context of the much more widespread Armenian genocide, historical scholarship treating it as a separate event is scarce, with the exceptions of the works of David Gaunt and Hannibal Travis.[2] In 2007, the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) reached a consensus that "the Ottoman campaign against Christian minorities of the Empire between 1914 and 1923 constituted a genocide against Armenians, Assyrians, and Pontian and Anatolian Greeks.[5] The IAGS referred to the work of Gaunt and Travis in passing this resolution.[6] Gregory Stanton, the President of the IAGS in 2007-2008 and the founder of Genocide Watch, endorsed the "repudiation by the world's leading genocide scholars of the Turkish government's ninety-year denial of the Ottoman Empire's genocides against its Christian populations, including Assyrians, Greeks, and Armenians."[7]"

 

I guess this sums it up. If you force folk to march hundreds of miles in the winter season while denying them warm clothing and food provisions, you're counting on many casualties. Whether this occurred on a scale to constitute a genocide could be offered up for debate, but denying it ever happened would be insulting.

 

Particularly when you've shot all their buffalo, eh ?

 

Mexican Senate adopts resolution recognizing genocide committed by Armenians in Khojaly.

So what will happen now?

http://www.aztv.az/readnews.php?lang=en&id=849

 

Well, let's keep up the momentum. I propose that the United States , in its contemporary form, committed genocide against the North American indigenous indians. I also propose that the British fire-bombing of Dresden was a genocidal war crime, as were the nuclear attacks against the civilian populations of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

 

By AFP
OCCUPIED JERUSALEM

An Israeli parliamentary committee was holding a debate on Monday on recognizing genocide in Armenia, a move likely to further strain already tense relations with Turkey.

The education committee began discussing a proposal to mark April 24, the day when Turkish mass killings of Armenians started in 1915, as a memorial day for “the massacre of the Armenian people.”

 

They didn't happen to mention the Nakba, did they ?