U.S. president announces major defense cuts

Israel is bullied by most of the world. We are against the bullies

 

You are the bullies.

 

Wow, it's always about Israel. No matter what the topic...

 

No the countries that hate Israel and the UN are the bullies

 

People generally don't want to hate anyone but people generally don't like bullies, while your loyalty to Israel depends heavily on Holocaust misuse.

 

Israel is a US spending cut topic, since it is the largest recepient of US foreign aid. Maybe many republicans don't like talking about spending cuts.


From the latest news on the topic:

“[Ron Paul] is just against foreign aid, and does not see any reason to grant an aid to the country that is a member of OECD,"
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/281621/20120113/ron-paul-israel-jews-iran-nuclear-foreign.htm


But, don't talk about spending cuts. Many Republicans hate that and are horribly disgusted when the US government is not increasing its debts.

 

That is only partially true. They don't want to help Americans that are seen as drags on society. Funny though because they will gladly spend money on drags of the world.

As far as Israel goes I will quote myself because I want to

The truth is many have a deep down fear of not pumping up Israel because they are scared they will go to hell or something. Don't get me wrong; I don't want to see the little land of God go anywhere but American government really needs to step back and examine things.

 

Be fair, Judge....Republicans don't mind cuts at all, provided those cuts don't affect their pet projects, their states, their back pockets and their business profits..and just hit the underclasses. Increasing debt to benefit Republicans is just fine....not a lot different to the Coalition/Tory Government in the UK, where cuts to the least able to cope go ahead with alacrity..but nary a tax loophole has been plugged to encourage Big Business to pay their fair share of taxes on profits.

Many of the loopholes existed before Blair took over, and were never plugged by Tory NuLabour......and others were added in his reign. This makes the cynical wonder if he was organising for his own future even then. His web of businesses made £12 million last year...and has a black hole of nearly £8million in unexplained "expenses". Tax paid...£315000. UK taxpayer costs for his "security"...£200000+

 

Oh yeah? And who is doing this bullying? You are kidding, right?

 

Ah, you must mean the US neo-cons like those on this forum who see the UN as useless. Those bullies?

 

Typical BS from the likes of uneducated American simpletons.

Most likely 45 and works at Walmart.

 

Republicans are more than happy to talk about spending cuts. Maybe you've missed the entire last year of the House. But since you think this is a partisan issue, when can we expect the Democrats to come out against aid for Israel?

Hopefully in October...

 

Well there is one thing about Israel that in the eyes of many in congress is very notable. They are out most trusted ally in that region. They have an excellent intelligence service and probably save us more money than many would admit.

Yes they are secretive and spy on us but we do the same. Hell they knew Iraq had no WMDs and they figured the CIA did as well (they did from what I gather).

Anywho Israel is a good thing to keep armed as a check and balance system for the region. I think all of the military aid is sufficient and saves us in the end.

 

No it has to do with terrorism from Hamas and Hezbollah

 

The UN is useless. The bullies are the terrorists the UN allows to function

 

Unlike you in a country run by terrorists

 

One could think that the US government could be more concerned with its massive debts, spending habits and unemployment figures, than with middle eastern matters. How does the act of donating billions to a foreign entity that spies on us help unemployed Americans?

 

Israel murders far more innocent civilians than Hamas and Hezbollah combined, but the practice of terrorism doesn't seem to discourage you from wanting to finance such. It's quite odd that many Americans would rather finance terrorism than to cut spending and repay debts.

 

You have a point. Democrats and republicans need to expand the military spending cuts to include unnecessary foreign aid.

 

It does not and if we were going to pull out of the middle east completely it would be one thing but I think it is just a little cheaper if we are going to stay in the area to do it this way than to add another carrier task force and a marine force on top of that with all the logistics that go along with it.

I would say Israel could save us money in the end. But I agree a full pull out of the region is better.

 

Some argue that the US government is spending trillions for Israeli interests:

Some critics of the war on Iraq maintain that the decision to go to war was made largely to advance Israeli interests.
http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/content/did-israel-lead-us-war-iraq

If Israel were to save US money, then its foreign policy would have to improve its relations with other regimes in the region to reduce unnecessary military spending. It is rather costly to endlessly pump money into a regime which maintains lousy foreign relations to maintain the need for such free money from the US tax payer. At the very least, one would expect for Israel to change its foreign policy in order for your argument to carry more weight.

 

Yeah, because serving your country and getting an education out of it is a really bad thing? As a Veteran who served for 15 years and got out because I got hurt (So yes, I draw VA disability. I would give it all up if I could go back in and finish my last 5 or 6 years) am I not supposed to use my GI Bill to get an education? I am currently going to NC State to get my Bachelors and you make it sound like Veterans are leaching off the government. Give me my health back, take away the chronic depression and hours upon hours of counseling with VA Social Workers. My wife is also a Vet (we met while being stationed in Italy together) and we used her GI Bill so she could get her Dual Bachelors. SHe now has two Bachelors, A Masters in Physics and is working on her PhD.

 

Were you drafted or did you have a choice? It is a job today and nothing more.

Now any medical issues you have that are related to service should be treated that is a given but. Many are going in today because they need a job and have collage loans that need paid off; I know this for a fact. At least they were told after 6 years a large amount of the loans would go away for them and go on my account (all tax payers). There is a big difference between going in clean and going to school and going in with loans you can not pay and expecting the tax payer to pay the bill.

I know a couple of punks who are getting checks because of some BS fake disability. When I say fake I mean a check every month for a bad leg and they can out play me in ball. I have been told it was BS by the ones getting paid. When I hear punks talk about respecting them because they served I simply say you get what you show.

So yeah there are many leaches in the military today but most are there for legitimate reasons.

For all it is just a job though.

 

This is not an issue. People have the right to take a job if it is offering to pay the bills. The question here is if the military really needs the recruits.

 

That's a ridiculous comment. Even people who joined "just for benefits" are taking the oath and are putting their lives on the line just like people who joined for other reasons. Those benefits are hard earned.