‘For God So Loved The World’ For A $19.99 Oil Change?

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  1. Blackrook

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    My business partner used to pass out religious literature to our clients. We finally had a confrontation when she started passing out anti-Catholic comic strips. We called it quits at that point.

    My doctor passes out Mormon literature to his patients.

    I am sure that people have the right to do this but I think it's best to keep religion out of business.
     
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    Agreed. My dad gave me some excellent advice as I was entering the business world: Never discuss religion or politics with clients. He also added sports but with an out clause if you happen to like the same teams as them.
     
  3. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    I have no pity for anyone passing out Chick tracks bashing the Catholic Church and the reaction they get. They aren't trying to reach anyone for Christ, they're trying to attack another Christian faith. Even most fair minded non Christians get turned off by that. I remember listening to Dr. Laura when one of the callers said that Catholics aren't Christians. Dr. Laura is a Jew, but she understood how ridiculous this was and immediately took the caller to task for it.

    I don't mind people politely offering me PRO literature (as opposed to ANTI). Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, etc do so all the time. They're usually polite about it and just as polite when I decline. No harm no foul.

    And I think religion should not be compartmentalized. We should be in every sector of society, including business.
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

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    LOL, my Mormon dentist sells Scentsy on the side -- I'd nearly rather he try to sell me on Mormonism!
     
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    Good post, my friend. I couldn't agree more. ;)
     
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    If I found out a client was Catholic, I might give them advice in that department if they really needed it.

    A young lady came in to sign an affidavit that she had no assets. She had been in an automobile accident that was her fault. Two elderly people were killed and a third severely injured when she strayed into the opposite lane and hit two other cars.

    She was crying miserably and I could tell the guilt of what she had done was eating away at her. I told her that there is nothing she could have done that God wouldn't forgive her for. I said there is nothing that God won't forgive.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Which is more, the Christians pay less.

    Doesn't matter what you call it, the Christians get to pay less the others have to pay more.

    It's really even more simple than your convoluted assertion that someone who gets to pay less doesn't pay less and the others don't pay more.
     
  8. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Nobody pays more than the full, asking price of the service. That's why this is perfectly legal and all you can do is whine about it.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    And the Christians pay less, while the rest of us pay more. Sorry but you can't change the math.

    Is it legal to charge whites less than blacks?
     
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    You're changing the subject to try to make your point. This guy is simply asking for a Bible verse to be quoted to qualify for a discount. That doesn't mean the Klu Klux Klan is back in town. You wax absurd.
     
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    Somehow I bet your reaction would be different if this were a Muslim businessman giving deals for people who would recite "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his Prophet."
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    No I am spot on on the subject, Christians get a lower price. Those of other beliefs have to pay more.

    So again if I offer lower prices to Asians over Blacks is that legal?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Does he charge Mormons a lower price than he charges you?
     
  14. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Repeating the same stupid argument makes you look like a too. You have to exaggerate because the OP is not really that big of a deal...so you go right to racism. I'll compare conservatives' record on racism to you bigots on the Left any day.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Math is not stupid, the Christians pay less than the non-Christians.

    Religious discrimination is treated no different from Racial discrimination under the law.

    ROFLMAO I am one of the most conservative members of this board. The only bigotry being shown is by the owner of this car wash and those who defend his actions.
     
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    Really, only Christians are capable of quoting a simple verse?

    ANYONE could quote this simple verse. How can that be bigoted?
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    It goes against the religious beliefs and morals of non-Christian, yes Jews and Muslims are prevented by their religious beliefs from making the statement John 3:16 makes just as surely as if the statement Christians had to read was denouncing Jesus as their savior and that God is a myth.

    You might think it cute and funny to make Jews and Muslims and Buddist and Hindus read Christian tenants, most others would find it highly offensive and highly intolerant and highly bigoted.
     
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    If a Muslim decided to give customers a discount for quoting Shahada, That would be fine too, and I'd have no problem with that either.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    So religious bigotry and discrimination is to be accepted? Assuming you are a Christian if the particular verse denounce Jesus as your savior you would still proclaim it?
     
  20. hiimjered

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    No, I would exercise the right as a customer to boycott the business. That is part of liberty. One part is that the business owner is free to run his business how he sees fit, the other part is that the customer is free to choose whether or not to use a particular business.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    So a business can refuse to serve Jews or to charge double to Jews?
     
  22. hiimjered

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    Businesses do it all of the time based on religion or even race. It is not only legal, but in some cases is supported or recommended by government regulation.

    Colleges give special scholarships to people of certain races or demographics, and in some cases religions. Parochial schools offer discounted tuition to members of the church. There is nothing wrong with this behavior.

    Regardless, this business isn't doing anything based on religion, it is based only on whether or not they quote a simple verse. No one is required to patronize the business, no one is required to say the verse, no religions are excluded, it simply rewards people for reciting a simple verse.

    If anyone doesn't like this practice, they are free to go elsewhere for an oil change.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    So that would justify a "whites only" sign in the window? We've all been mistaken the last 50 years?
     
  24. hiimjered

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    You brought race into a religious issue.

    Regardless, when did this guy give any indication that he would deny service to anyone?

    What law forces people to charge the same price to everyone? What law limits the reasons a person can give discounts?

    People can give discounts for any reason they choose. I suppose you are against the companies that give discounts to family of workers too? This really isn't any different.
     
  25. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    No, you're not a conservative. A conservative would have defended this man's right to run his business however he saw fit.
     

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