‘Freedom!’ Thousands of Cubans take to the streets to demand the end of dictatorship

Some Americans want to limit access to the ballot box. Do they have a problem with "democracy".? Actually, US "democracy" has been usurped by plutocrats, that's why the living standards of the bottom 50% of Americans has stagnated in the last 3 decades***, while in China the same demographic has seen their living standards increase at the fastest rate in history,

***resulting in the extreme hyper-partisanship evidenced by the storming of the Capitol in January.

Some people in Cuba are committed to the socialists revolution; OTOH, no-one in Cuba, including those who want "freedom", wants a US military intrusion. Ending the embargo, restoring remittances etc would encourage more flexibility from the Cuban government, but Biden's hands are tied because the senate is gridlocked, ie he is beholden to domestic politics.

(Apparently Castro's brother was overjoyed by Obama's 'peace' overtures in 2016...but the joy was short-lived when the madman Trump took over. (Also heard today: from a Russian government source, Putin wanted Trump elected in 2016 because he regarded Trump as mentally unstable and would cause chaos in the US....In the event, Putin was correct...whether or not Putin actually aided Trump's election as the Dems claim).

And you are plain wrong about Chavez, who was elected by democratic vote, even if his successor Maduro forced changes in voting rules. (Maduro of course was faced by the collapse in oil revenues as well as US sanctions facing Chavez).

Certainly Trump is comparable, but the SCOTUS dealt with Trump's dictatorial ambitions.

Chavez enjoyed wide-spread support, the revolution in Cuba also.

Meanwhile it remains to be seen to what extent Trump's followers can enforce their own view of democracy on the nation, through legislative change.

That's because your partisanship and ideological blindness prevents you from seeing other points of view.

 

The internal logic is that if they want to stoke fires in Cuba they would have done it 8 months ago with Trump in office where there was actually a chance of it succeeding.

 

The CIA have been fomenting strife in Cuba ever since the revolution, when their pal Batista was forced out by the Castro-led revolution

 

As for Chavez never trust a president who wears a military uniform.

 

Really? The CIA was "formenting strife" during the Obama administration? How about now, under the Biden administration?

 

That's a fair point, but I suspect the CIA has been stoking fires in Cuba for a very long time. Same in Venezuela, Colombia and most of the rest of central and south america.

 

Cant argue with ya there. When we see what the Xiden FBI and Obama’s FBI, Treasury and other departments have done against our own people you just gotta know that to them other country’s are fair game.

 

Unsurprising:

 

This is true.

"La revolucion" that they are always referring to is the same old centuries revolution for Cuban sovereignty and after 400 years of Spain's occupation and tyranny, the United States took over with strings attached, so the revolutionary war cry was aimed at the US. Once Fidel took that clarion call, he would beat the US over the head with it since the US has indeed historically been manipulating Cuba for a very long time, so much so that as far as the Cuban government is concerned, the US is responsible for all their ills.

It is time that the US government, once and for all, deprive them of that excuse.

 

Will the Progressive Left listen:

 

Is artistic freedom only available for some:

 

A good summary of all the issues:

 

In the present "discussion" about Cuba, no political commentator is willing to discuss the damage to Cuba and Venezuela caused by decades of US sanctions. Mum is the word.

 

Cubans have had enough of the commies.

Check this out, to get an insight into what they deal with:

 

Google? Sounds like CIA talking points to me. CIA is still angry about Bay Of Pigs.

I have a friend who is married to a young Cuban for years. He goes back and forth frequently.

Any discussion of the effects of US sanctions on Cubans? I don't think so.

 

It's not good in Cuba. As many as could flee there have fled.

I bet you don't know who that is in my avatar.

Hay muchos Cubanos aqui.

 

Any adult discussion of the effects on ordinary Cubans of the decades of US sanctions? So far, no. Until we reach that point I have nothing further to discuss.

 

So is it your opinion the US should reward Communist dictatorships?

 

For myself, I can understand why US policy doesn't want to reward the Che Geuvaras of this world.

Why is it you cannot?

You do realize Castro allowed Russian nuclear missiles pointed at the US in Cuba, correct?

Cubans were free to come to America for decades. Castro abused that during the Mariel boat lifts.

Their communist government is now imploding. They ran out of other peoples' money.

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

 

Cuba and now Venezuela can just about trade with any country in the world,
countries that for the most part don't care how many citizens are jailed, exiled
or murdered by their government. Let's give a big hand to these countries.

 

Considering that these nations can trade freely with almost any country in the world, what exactly is the damage? I would think very little, although it's a nice commie talking point.

 

How true. As if ignoring that fact will make it go away. History speaks fo itself......regardless of the spin some will put on it.

 

If the sanctions don't harm the targeted countries, then why not repeal them?

If the populations of these targeted countries cannot buy or otherwise acquire basic needs, they are the ones harmed, and that is what has been going on for many years now.

We are shown by our MSM pictures of empty grocery shelves in the targeted countries, and told the reason for that is the government's fault, the fault of socialism. Not a word about how our sanctions contribute greatly to those empty shelves.

 

Yes I have many Cuban friends here. Conducting several informal polls among those friends, not a single one would return to Cuba if the current government failed. Pseudo patriots with no love of their homeland.

They are happy to send somebody else's son off to invade the island under Biden, but they wouldn't send their own.

 

Its an old and trusted US foreign policy approach: Use sanctions to cripple the target nations economy and then blame it on socialism, or whatever the leadership represents. Not entirely honest, but seems to work.