‘I wonder if we were too liberal’: Jack Letts' mother on her IS convert son

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Ya think? Not the first time this has happened. What should happen to him if he gets out:
     
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    Islam is a mind virus. It converts all who read about it into brutal killers. Best warn your kids early on not to go near it.

    I don't fault the parents. They were raised at the peak of the diversity movement and were themselves taught to be blind to the dangers of Islam.

    The kid should get his citizenship pass revoked and never be allowed back into the country. He made his choice to join the enemy side. He will always be a danger to others if he is allowed back here.

    Although I might not be against his return if he gets the death penalty for treason. Or at least life in prison.
     
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    O for ****'s sake.
    Every islamist is not a brutal killer.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're right. Most Muslims are too busy making a living to join the global jihad. It doesn't mean that it isn't in their hearts.

    And isn't your statement the very heart of turning a blind eye toward the dangers of Islam?
     
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    I wonder how his parents would have reacted if their child was converting to a very conservative Christian sect.
    There's a good probability their response would have been different.
    But hey, Islam is all the trend in many parts of Europe now, the media is constantly sending messages of how wonderful it is, that only racists & bigots are against it.
     
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    Islam is attractive to young men because it's inherent violence. What a great card for young angry men to play. God wants me to kill and it's ok!
     
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    Pretty sure none of the guys who assaulted the Capitol and beat up police officers on January 6 were Muslim, though.
     
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    Beat up police officers? Show me a clip.
     
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    You're this woefully unaware of what happened? You have no excuse in this day and age. There is no shortage of video of that day and it's a simple Google search away.



     
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    I do fault the parents.

    The problems with leftism are obvious, and require adherents to stop using their brain.
     
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    Fighting over a flag?
     
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    religious fanatics are evil, and they try to indoctrinate everyone they can
     
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    both sides have their idiots - left and right - he fell for the cult of IS, stupid
     
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    like the kkk?

    most parents would question their parenting if their children did these things.... left or right
     
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    yeah, I have never gotten religions fanaticism, doesn't make sense to me

    it's always the ends justifies the means with them, it seems
     
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    weak minds fall for cults, regardless of the beliefs of the cult - this young man had a weak mind obviously
     
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    When a parent is being "too liberal", it means they give their kids too many freedoms to do whatever they wish aka "too liberal" = "not enough discipline". Its a common parenting mistake everywhere.
     
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    And even more important:

    "I'm a nobody and want to be a somebody."

    That's a big proponent in these seemingly random mass shootings. "Everyone will remember me."
     
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    I know more than one muslim. Its not 'in their hearts' just because they're muslim ffs.

    No, its not. There are plenty of dangerous ideologues in every religion, including Christianity. I watch the dangerous ideologues, I do not watch every person who checks a ****ing demographic box that describes more than 2 billion people ffs.
     
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    Are you familiar with the list of what happens to a country as the percentage of its Muslim population grows?
     
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    Are you familiar with the fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc?
     
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    That can also be taken too far and be another fallacy - like claiming that stabbing someone had nothing to do with their subsequent death.

    Despite plenty of resources, the Muslim world failed to develop on its own.

    Islam spread through war and not through peace.

    These are hard facts.

    Some might claim that Islamic nations failed to develop because of political as oppose to religious reasons. However, Islam does not allow for the separation of religion and state in most countries. The religion does not allow for a secular state. Only through the power of Ataturk was Turkey able to break this pattern and become secular. And is it surprising that Turkey advanced the most by itself?

    The problem is, the more one reads the Quran, the more one realizes that Islam is very bloody and violent. So, the best behaved Muslims are those who know little about what the Quran and Hadith say and are simply culturally Muslim.

    The boy likely went to study the Quran, found out what he was suppose to do according the the Quran, and then proceeded to go do it.
     
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    *looks at the crusades.... looks back* o yeah religions that spread by war means 100% of their proponents are 'brutal killers' in their hearts.

    Again: Being islamic doesn't make one automatically have a 'brutal killer' in their heart.

    There are 2 billion of them: If they were all 'brutal killers' in their hearts, we'd all be ****ing dead.
     
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    It would appear that many don't understand the difference between Islam and Radical Islam. But then we see the same in the US with the Radical Left and the Radical Right. Too easy to just ignore the descriptor and lump all into the same category.
     

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