‘Sex exceptionalism’: The very perverse idea behind those downplaying Hamas’s mass rapes

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  1. truth and justice

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    publisizing the videos is what the media is for. The media is not a court of law. It could be used in a court of law, but that will also depend on the jurisdiction in question. Media have made all sorts of claims from the Seth Rich conspiracy theories to the Covid Vaccine to rape allegations, etc. But none of that makes a hill of beans in a court of law, which is what I am focused on. The court of law, whether it is the ICC or the Israeli Judicial system must come to life for these allegations to be handled in the right, legal, rule-of-law way, that a civilized society must accept. I don't care who the person is, the son of a billionaire with political ambitions or a person accused of being in a gang or a member of a terrorist group recognized by the US and Israel.

    As the adage from the past says, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." So, the legal system gets rid of that whimsical type of argument.
     
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    Hamas does not need the Israeli government to get the world to go against them..... They did a fine job of that themselves when they decided to launch a terrorist attack against Israel
     
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    Qatar does not think so, and they are one of our "allies" since the GWB administration. Even Netanyahu agreed to allow Hamas to have payments from Qatar to go to Hamas. Furthermore, Hamas was listed as a terrorist organization since 2000 or so, by the GWB administration and ever since long before the infamous attack on October 7th.
     
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    Why do you think you know what the Israeli authorities and courts of law are doing? Do they have to inform you and everybody else in the world about what, why, and how they're doing?

    I don't understand why you think that something doesn't happen just because you're not being told that it happens.
     
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    Several days before that terrorist act:

    In a statement on Friday, the U.N.’s humanitarian office called the dramatic escalation of violence in the West Bank, “alarming and urgent.”

    At least 132 Palestinians, including 41 children, have been killed by security forces and settlers in the past three weeks, according to the U.N. In 2022, 158 Palestinians were killed there, in the worst level of violence in two decades.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MQFnoECAkQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2i23jnacDPtEPPcMfugJLA
     
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    We have all the proper need. Any refusal to admit that it happened is just more open defense of Hamas terrorists.
     
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    You actually think killing a healthy unborn at 9 month gestation and aborting it is less risky then birthing a live baby vaginally or through cesarean section? Really?
     
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    who is talking about aborting a 9-month-old gestation, did you mean 9 week

    or are you saying if one of the Israeli victims is raped and not returned until 9 months, you want her to be forced to have the rapists baby?

    I hope no Israeli rape victim has to make that choice, it would not be easy, but it should be hers
     
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    I'm confused. Do you believe a healthy child -rape child or not--at the 9th month gestation should be allowed to be birthed alive by cesarean section or vaginally? Or do you think a mother should be allowed to kill it first through an abortion procedure and then extracting the dead child vaginally or cesarian or some other intrusive method. ?
     
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    do you believe an Israeli woman or little girl that was raped should be forced to have her rapists baby?
     
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    If the baby was 9 months gestation, the answer is yes.

    Do you have courage to answer my question? Does the mother of a 9 month gestation unborn baby -rape origin or not--have the right to kill her baby first before its born ?
     
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    I believe it's not my choice, it's the rape victim's choice if she wants to have the rapists baby or not, I believe it would not be an easy choice
     
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    NY TIMES: Overwhelming Evidence: Hamas Uses Rape as a Terror Weapon

    'everywhere Hamas terrorists struck — the rave, the military bases along the Gaza border and the kibbutzim — they brutalized women. A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.'

    'Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls were sexually assaulted or mutilated.'

    https://archive.is/aFPBa [Warning - very difficult to read.]

    '[And yet the UN stood silent. International women’s groups stood silent. Progressives who claim to be feminists stood silent, here in the US and elsewhere, despite evidence and testimony accumulating almost in real time how radical-Islamist Hamas and Gazans used rape as a genocidal attack strategy on October 7. And apart from a few carefully crafted statements, they’re still silent to this day.]'

    Any respect for those that deny this is undeserved.
     
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    When Israel is actively squashing a terrorist organization for a horrific attack on civilians, he does owe you, the media, or anybody else justification or explanation for their retaliation to ensure future safety of his people.

    Hammas, and their Palestinian supporters caused this. End of story.
     
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    It is a particularly evil thing to side with Hamas on their invasion and mass rapes and murders of innocent unarmed Jewish civilians. They know full well it occurred, but they feel that Jewish women deserve it. The NY Times has a story out which I linked to that reveals some of the depths of savagery unleashed on these young women and it's inconceivable to me that this occurred in a first world nation less than 3 months ago, and that huge crowds of Leftists and Poison Ivy Leaguers cheered.

    We are never going to be of common mind and viewpoint with people who advocate for such vile animals simply because their victims are Jewish.

    And why do they view young Jewish women eligible for such atrocities? Because they view them as White. Follow that thought to its logical conclusion.
     
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    This is an old post, but it is not true. It was known at the time of this post that Netanyahu held press conferences about the rapes and sexual assaults. He was one of the champions against people who were downplaying the attacks and making false claims about the official information that was available. The evidence overwhelmingly exists to support the conclusion that Hamas used sexual violence against women as a tactic in their assault on Israel. People in denial will have the shame of egg on their face when they finally admit the truth and recognize that the evidence was there all along. Netanyahu has made official statements to combat your false allegations. I don't understand the motivation behind spreading misinformation to downplay the Hamas sexual assaults, but I'm shocked and appalled by it.

    that https://apnews.com/article/sexual-assault-hamas-oct-7-attack-rape-bb06b950bb6794affb8d468cd283bc51
    https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-776753
    They're too busy carrying water for terrorists. They're afraid to admit that Hamas did this because they want to paint the picture of Hamas being freedom fighters or coloring them in more positive light. This happened. It's time to admit it and move on.
     
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    These raping murdering terrorists thought their atrocities would steal Israel's courage instead it steeled their resolve.

    Hamas is WILDLY popular in the West Bank since the 10/7 rapes and slaughters.

    Assault On 10 Cities: Israel Mounts Largest Raid On West Bank Since War's Start
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    'Israeli forces seize $2.5 million used to fund terror...'
     
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    I GUESS SHE DIDN’T MEET ANY ‘INNOCENT CIVILIANS’ DURING HER TIME IN GAZA: Freed Israeli hostage Mia Schem ‘went through holocaust’ in Hamas captivity in Gaza: ‘Everyone over there is a terrorist’.

    '“It was important to me to relay the truth about the nature of the people who live in Gaza, who they are truly are and what I experienced there,” the young woman tells'

    '“It was important to you that the world understands what?”

    “That I went through a holocaust,” the former hostage says, matter-of-factly. “Everyone over there is a terrorist.”

    'Schem adds that after being kidnapped from a musical festival in southern Israel on Oct. 7, she was held by a civilian family in Gaza that was involved with the terror group.'

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    She has tattooed on her arm, next to the tattooed date of 10/6/2023, that she will return to the spot of the slaughter, and again dance for peace, just as they were dancing for peace when Hamas invaded and launched their evil rape slaughter of the innocent and unarmed.

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    Unbowed

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    'She appeared on Instagram sporting a defiant new tattoo that reads, “We will dance again.” Her new ink includes the date of the attack.'

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    In a wheelchair after surgery.

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    “I will never forget October 7, 2023,” she wrote in the post.

    “The pain and the fear, the difficult sights, the friends who won’t come back, and those we must bring back. But we will win, we will dance!” Schem added.

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    Home, her mother tends her injuries.
     

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