‘The damage is done’: Russians face economic point of no return

It sounded like you were not registering.

I think Putin did a heck of a job convincing everyone that no one should rely on Russians exports. Not even Germans are so stubborn that they'd continue on that path, let alone increase imports. Everything 'Russia' is toxic today, even their people.

 

This involves executive discretionary release of equipment. The Congressional act involved was signed . . . in 1961. So, unlike with Trump simply signing a bill that Congress put on his desk (and for which his signature didn't matter), Biden actually made a decision here. You'd know that if you read the article . . . which, like the Constitution, you clearly did not.

Appears to be the same as the above.

Shall I explain some more or do you get the difference between a President actually making the call to use discretionary accounts previously approved by Congress (but not apportioned by Congress) at his, well, discretion, and a President who just signs a piece of paper that it doesn't even matter if he signs it or not?

Okay, I'm probably making things too complicated. I'll try to make it simpler. Let's see if this sinks in (though, let's face it, you aren't going to be willing or able to actually discuss this).

Little Joey and Little Donny have been invited to a Christmas party. Little Joey and Little Donny both have a weekly allowance from their parents. Little Joey sees a kid at the party who is crying because they haven't gotten any presents, so Little Joey walks down the street and spends his allowance on a toy to give to the crying child. Little Donny doesn't give two shits about the crying kid, but his parents buy a toy for the kid and ask him to sign the card . . . but they also say they'll just go ahead and sign the card for him if he doesn't do it, and that they are going to give the toy to the kid regardless. They later have to pry the toy out of Little Donny's hands. Do you understand the difference in these two scenarios or do I have to make it even simpler?

 

So tell me again how you suddenly support Nationalism, border integrity, a well armed populace, and Nazi death squads...

 

EXACTLY, now is the time to increase production to kill two birds with one stone. I read a report yesterday that American companies could double the Natural Gas output almost immediately if restrictions were eased. It's clean, gas burns clean and we can help cripple a tyrant. Both sides can give here and come up with a solution, if they want too.

 

Wait . . . when, short of a few days ago (and along with Biden) did Germany sanction Russia to stop Nord 2? Dude, in case you forgot, Biden eased up on those sanctions FOR GERMANY.

 

They can buy electricity from their neighbour too. Hell, my province does that for the north eastern states. It's even simpler with being member of the EU, there's less problem to trade.

 

Is it as clean as natural gas? Kind of defeats the point to kill clean Nuclear to avoid a possible disaster to turn around and buy coal electricity? They are trying to lead the world in clean electricity, to your point though that may have to change if the world doesn't change their tune on natural gas in the short term.

 

When a autocrat invade another country.

 

There are no sanctions against NS2. The sanctions are for anyone working on the project. Germany asked not to have these sanctions against them and Trump complied.
Europe's energy project was finished in September, but has stood idle pending certification by Germany and the European Union. Germany on Tuesday halted the Nord Stream 2 Baltic Sea gas pipeline project by not providing certification.

 

Can you get your story straight? The only way to sanction NS2 IS by sanctioning people working on the project. Germany wanted Biden to ease off on sanctions and he did . . . for which you criticized him . . . while praising Trump for supposedly doing the exact same thing. Now both the US and Germany are sanctioning it and the project is dead.

Halting a project is one form of sanctioning, bud. In fact, since it involves more sunk costs when it is a nearly completed project . . .

 

How many flip flops does it take to read through a yardmeat post?
All you are doing is twisting BS because you have to deflect from the conversation.

Trump instituted sanctions against anyone working on the NS2 pipeline and shut it down.
UNDISPUTED
And nothing you can post changes that
BIDEN (And Biden alone) lifted all sanctions the day he took office promoting the NS2 pipeline to the benefit of Russia.
UNDISPUTED
Nothing you can post changes that.
Trump provided the first lethal weapons to Ukraine
UNDISPUTED
Nothing you can post changes that.
Biden refused to make any provisions to Ukraine until after the invasion
UNDISPUTED
Nothing you can post changes that.

Which is why Ukrainian officials are publicly calling US Democrats P*****s.
Nothing you can post changes that.

So while you wander around with your constitutional Trumpy congressional deflections, you have NOTHING you can post that disputes those facts

If you could have, you would have.

 

Belgium and France are more than half nuclear with plenty of wind too. But no one would blame the German for not being able to reach their goal due to Putin's stupidity. And while gas is cleaner it's still not carbon neutral.

 

So now you don't understand what a flip flop is either?

You just said in your last post that Trump eased up on those sanctions. Which is it?

Actually, I did dispute that. He did that in May, which was not "the day he took office." And it was to the benefit of, and at the request of, Germany, not Russia. Remember . . . you were busy trying to praise Trump for doing that exact same thing and now you are backtracking. I guess you think that "undisputed" means that you failed to dispute your own debunking? Funny.

Anyone able and capable of reading English can see I did dispute that. In fact, the fact that you chopped off the bottom part of my post when "responding" demonstrates that you are aware of this and are just running away again.

I'm actually not sure if that's true or not. Can you show that there was no aid to Ukraine from the administration before then?

Trumpists were far, far bigger ******* when it came to Ukraine, as I've proven. And most of your accusations involving Biden have been debunked at this point.

Bwahahaha! The Constitution is now a "deflection" in Trump world! And I can and have refuted your claims. You've proven incapable of engaging.

I'll try an intro to social studies tutorial one more time (and again you will flee, just like last time):

Congress has what is colloquially known as "the power of the purse." They control the treasury. They decide spending and they decide taxes (at least when people like Trump aren't stealing that power from them).

There are two ways that the President can give military aid to a country like Ukraine. Pay attention. There's only two. This ain't rocket surgery.

1) Congress can give the President an allowance of a sort . . . an account with certain restrictions where they say: "Look, if you see a situation like XYZ, then you can use that money for XYZ." If the President sees an XYZ situation in a country like Ukraine, then they can make the executive decision to use that money to help Ukraine. That's what Biden did. So at least it involved his decision, so I'll give him a sliver of credit.
2) Congress can pass a bill for funds to be used for a specific purpose, like to help Ukraine. There is no discretion from the President here except to sign or not sign the bill. (I can provide another Schoolhouse Rock video if necessary to explain how bills are passed). Even then, the President's signature doesn't even matter if the bill has a veto-proof majority. Do I credit presidents for signing such bills? Sometimes, but only in two situations: if the bill did not have a veto-proof majority and/or if the President actually played a role in promoting the bill and getting congressional support, then sure. Trump dragged his sharpie across some pulp, but he fails all of the other tests here. He was nothing but a figurehead. The credit for that bill goes solely to the Republican and Democrat lawmakers who made it happen . . . and they did so almost unanimously.

 

It remains to be seen whether shale gas is too polluting.

But basically I am not against the idea.

 

Brandon has been nothing but divisive since his presidency started

 

Literally none of what you said is true

 

I never stated that
Fake claim

Nobody claimed Russia requested anything. I said to the benefit of Russia

I never made that claim
Fake

Because it was just Blah Blah Blah
Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. And you thought you disputed it because he had to go through proper channels.
Thats not a dispute. Its gibberish trying to deflect from the conversation
More Blah Blah Blah.

You haven't debunked anything yet. And you can't change what Ukraine said about Biden. They never said that about Trump

And the rest is just more off topic Blah Blah Blah.
Not even worth the read

 

For you, the only way Biden can be unifying is if he turns into Donald Trump.

 

Not true at all, but uniting behind Brandon is difficult considering the amount of divisive he has been and how radicalized his party has become. Plus how terrible of a job he has done.

 

There will be no negotiating. All of this has been meticulously orchestrated. All the sanctions will do is hurt western nations, catapulting theirs and ours, into a tail spin.

Heck, they are already laying the ground work for pulling Belarus into the Sov.... I mean Russian sphere of power.

Kiev mulls ‘pre-emptive’ attack on Belarus

Why do you think both Russia and China were buying up MASSIVE amounts of gold over the last decade? It wasn't because it was purdy!

 

Somebody should make sure conservatives understand the difference between yelling at a bully and then running away when he looks up and walking right up to them and smacking them in the mouth. Trump-type bullshit works on his brain dead toadies but not on dictators in the real world.

 

Biden should announce tonight that all sanctions in place by the US & NATO will remain in place until there is regime change in Russia.

 

None of what you just said makes any sense

 

Not his friend, his butt-buddy

 

He'd also have to cheat on his wife and taxes, not pay his debts and bankrupt several businesses

And he still doesn't cheat at golf.