‘White People Food’ Is Creating An Unattainable Picture Of Health

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  1. crank

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    health is bigotry
     
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    Are you not? Seems like standard, everyday fair, to me.
     
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    Hellman's is one of the better ones, but even the olive oil version they sell has soybean oil as the second ingredient, olive oil is the 3rd ingredient
     
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    When buying processed foods, I check every label for sweeteners (natural and chemical) and sodium.
     
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    I have to agree, sounds like she was raised to think the things she could not afford were white people things.... I was raised those were things we could not afford as we did not have enough money
     
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    I argue that government (the feds especially) involvement in most areas causes more harm than good. Government regulation has increased the cost and complexity of healthcare and health insurance. The education system is thoroughly broken because of government intervention, the war on drugs has been a hugely expensive and invasive (of individual liberty and privacy) failure. The EPA doesn't protect the environment but it does often prevent victims of industry from suing them and getting their injuries remunerated. Wall Street and the banking industry owns the FCC, the FDIC and other regulatory agencies.
     
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    To be so utterly consumed by racism that you apply it to literally every human function, is horrifying ... in 2018. This stuff reads like something from the 19thC. It's almost like a religious fundamentalism.
     
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    agree, the Mexicans are rapists, blacks are criminals, the white man is keeping us down, is no different, why parents do this is beyond me

    when you tell these things to a child, it becomes ingrained in their head
     
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    This takes us back on topic. There are alternatives to the regular sugar laden, soy/canola oil mayo and dressings but they are a little more pricey. A company called Primal Kitchen sells mayo that doesn't have any sugar, soy oil or canola oil but it runs quite a bit more than the major brands (soy and canola oil is a lot cheaper than olive and avocado oil).
     
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    It's absolutely disgusting, actually. I cannot understand adults who impose their own failures upon their children.

    Best thing for such people is to start having mixed race kids ... then there is no way they can do this shiiite. Then again, I've heard it said that even half white Black Americans are racist. Incredible! Imagine teaching your young children that "Mommy/Daddy may be white, but that doesn't mean White people aren't Evil"
     
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    The only manufactured mayo I buy is all natural, and 100% extra virgin olive oil. Mayo is not something we use much in this house (way too high in fats), and we're pretty particular about flavour .. so it's the top shelf stuff for us. It may be $10 a jar, but I probably only buy it twice a year.
     
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    I agree changes in some areas are needed, but we need regulations as corporations will not police themselves, if it's legal.. it's ok to do, especially when big profit is involved

    the problem is many regulations are bought by rich corps to keep others out of their market, or protect their market
     
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    people fear fats, but it's turning out the science is not backing that up, it's really the bad oils (seed oils and trans fats) and sugars

    think of it this way, what is your bodies preferred way to store energy.. fats

    your body can only store a very limited amount of glucose, so the rest of the carbs are stored as fat for later use
     
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    you have too anymore, I do not worry about sodium though
     
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    Is pimento cheese a white food?
     
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    That's not good science for the masses. It's very specific to people with unusually low levels of activity.

    The very best diet for active people is high carb (complex carbs, of course), low protein, low fat. That's the diet which results in the longest lifespans, and the fewest health issues.
     
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    That's not good science for the masses. It's very specific to people with unusually low levels of activity.

    The very best diet for active people is high carb (complex carbs, of course), low protein, low fat. That's the diet which results in the longest lifespans, and the fewest health issues.
     
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    This is part of the problem. Industry left to its own devices has to cater to the market. Industry with the government as a tool, can raise barriers to entry, get government subsidies, require people to buy their products, get bailouts to save them from their own bad decisions, and so on.

    Unless you can find a way to make the people in government be a better quality of person, government is no better than the corporations they're supposed to be regulating. In fact, given the counterproductive motivations* inherent in government systems, they are invariably worse than their private enterprise counterparts. This isn't to say there is anything particularly wonderful about corporations but as long as transactions between businesses and their customers is voluntary, businesses have to cater to their customers and give them what they want. Government has no such requirement and regularly uses force or the threat of force to compel compliance with its edicts.

    *No bottom line, no calculable return on investment, no consequences for wasting taxpayer money, no incentives to find or eliminate waste or fraud, positive feedback loops for wasting taxpayer money (vote buying and baseline budget growth) to name a few.
     
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    we will have to agree to disagree

    and all diets should avoid seed oils, trans fats and excess sugars
     
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    No offense, but you sound like an Italian eating spaghetti and thinking he's eating ramen. The stuff they sell in Chinese restaurants in America is not the stuff they sell in Chinese restaurants in China. It's similar, but the ingredients have been changed to reflect what is available locally, and seasoning is changed to reflect their customer's preference.

    Here's a great example of what I'm talking about. It's a Chinese girl from China eating at an American chinese restaurant. It's definitely NOT the same.
     
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    That is what Tim Noakes, a medical doctor, marathon runner and author thought for many years. in the last few years he's recanted everything he thought he knew about diet after his father died of diabetes complications and he (though apparently lean and fit) was diagnosed with diabetes. He discovered that a high fat, moderate protein and low carb diet was much healthier. If you care to look into it you'll find that more and more distance runners, bicyclists and other athletes are thriving on an LCHF ketogenic diet.
     
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    "I know a man who quit drinking, smoking, unheatlhy food and fast women, He was the healthiest suicide we've ever had" Paraphrasing Mark Twain.
     
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    I would respectfully submit that this family has a genetic predisposition to insulin resistance/DMII.

    Meantime, the high carb/low protein diet does not produce metabolic pressures when the carbs are complex, and the individual is engaged in daily incidental exercise (as in, slow pace but all day .. with very little time spent seated).
     
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    Yes .. these are no-brainers.
     
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    some are better then others for sure
     
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