“Look at all of the people fighting for me.”

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  1. independentthinker

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    LOL. Impeachment? That is is just the very top tip of the iceberg. I'm talking about numerous impeachments and numerous criminal investigations of others. We can go back to impeaching Bill Clinton again because democrats have set the precedent that we can have senate impeachment trials for those no longer in office. Then we can investigate Obama. Surely it's treason if intelligence tells him Russia is trying to influence our elections and he then tells his people to just stand down and let it happen. Then we can investigate everyone involved in trying to overthrow a legitimately elected president in 2016 over the next 4 years. Then we can investigate why states broke their own laws and their own constitutions regarding voting in the 2020 election. We can investigate Pelosi and other TDS'rs and we can impeach both Biden and Harris and investigate the House's abuse of power in the sham investigations of Jan 6th. And, we can investigate at the state and local levels as well. These are just for starters. The House has shown us that they have unlimited "oversight" powers with nothing but a majority vote of 218-217.
     
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    Certainly you could do all those things, but the idea that you're only going to catch Democrats doing bad things in government is ridiculous. You'll never get the Republicans, and especially Trump, to sign off on all of that because it's going to catch corrupt right-wing politicians just the same as it would the left.
     
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    During the last 5 years, and even longer, democrats have been steadily attacking our democracy and continue to do so.
     
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    Democrats have already done these things. Clinton was already impeached for lying and obstructing justice. We need a new impeachment since democrats have shown us the precedent that the Senate can have an impeachment trial for someone no longer in office. Obama was told by intelligence that Russia was trying to influence our elections and he told his people to stand down and let it happen. That's treason. Democrats formed an insurance policy by lying to courts in order to overturn a legitimately elected president. In the 2020 election some states broke their very own election laws in order to influence the election. Then we have to investigate the partisan biased Jan 6th investigators.
     
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    It's really bizarre. They complain constantly that Biden isn't running the show and he's senile (I don't believe he is but I wouldn't care if he is after the Toxic Waste that just stained the Oval Office). At least Biden isn't a lunatic or sell-out. In his first day, he lowered the flags and attended a ceremony for all the people we lost to COVID.

    They want to scream that Biden isn't running the show but look how they fall over themselves claiming that Pelosi wouldn't "let Trump keep the travel ban" and she said "No" to his request for National Guard back-up. They won't answer it but I've asked. If the Orange Stain was encouraging them to "protest peacefully" why in the hell did he request National Guard back-up? And, less than 24 hours later, when Pence, Pelosi and terrified leaders were barricaded in various offices knowing it was just a matter of time before the people that beat the hell out of hundreds of police officers would breach that building. I guess Pelosi sprinted from the Capitol to wherever the Orange Stain was and broke his fingers so he couldn't call for back-up. Who was running the show when he brazenly said "I take no responsibility at all"?

    And, even crazier than that. Because Biden is not binging on uppers and Big Macs, he's not up tweeting craziness at all hours of the night, he doesn't interrupt people, he's not a bully, he's not trying to burn the country to the ground, he's not in bed with Xi or Putin, he isn't immature and childish (what grown person makes fun of handicapped people? Worse. What kind of grown people laugh at that?). Trump spent his entire time terrifying his people with "they" (all the monsters that don't look, love or worship like them) are going to take their country and it brings them out the woodwork (or wherever the hell hateful self-righteous people exist).

    The strangest part is that they don't even seem to realize that every single dictator always moved to rid his/her country of the educated because he was able to manipulate the uneducated without a battle. Sound familiar?

    They say they want to take away voters' rights if they don't vote "R" because they are not "Educated on the issues" (implication they would vote "R" if they were). Not only are we more educated on the "issues", we are more educated PERIOD.

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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If you think the "world" is Fox News and the NY Post I begin to see what the problem is here.

    The Republican Party used to something other than just an unending parade of transparent calumny
     
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    That's all on the Orange Stain. He's set the country back decades with his toxicity.

    I don't even want to hear you go on and on about your man crush. You aren't able to move off that so please spare me the apologetic's manifesto.
     
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    Pants, these people are justifying our President doing NOTHING to help the hundreds of Capitol police officers that were brutally attacked by an angry mob ignited by their Orange Jesus.

    Nobody on this planet should be okay with their country's leader sitting on his hands for hours and not taking one step toward helping the men and women that suit up every day and go into the line of fire to serve and protect their communities. So, anybody still playing helicopter mom to the Orange Stain isn't going to give you any kind of answer to your questions that will make sense. They can't because this does not make any sense.

    I know this will be hard to hear but...they don't give a damn what he does.
     
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    You were proven wrong... It is that simple...
     
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    Why on Earth do you think posting a bunch of links about Republicans questioning Biden's mental state is evidence of anything other than the opposite party getting some digs in?

    None of that is proof of anything other than you people are extremely myopic.
     
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    Don’t worry, history has already recorded that trump tried to subvert the results of the election he lost.
    It records that trump abandoned his duties as potus and spent two months threatening and trying to suborn elected officials in several states, mounted dozens of failed legal challenges led by extremist idiots, and culminated by goading his cult to storm the Capitol on January 6 in a last ditch effort to keep himself in power.

    No amount of turd polishing can hide that truth, and his cult knows it but they can’t accept that they were taken in by a malignant narcissist who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about them so they carry on, ever more hysterically, in hopes that their white noise can obscure reality.
    By now, the whole planet knows better.
     
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    @MJ Davies
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    I beg to differ ;)

    Clearly the DNC think far less of its base then you do :) Thank God for the real smart people on the hill and not the genius propaganda sponges glued to MSNBCNN ;)
     
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    I guess the Republicans aren't interested in keeping our democracy or holding people accountable. If the democrats were doing so for the last 5 years, why wasn't something investigated or done?
     
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    No, it's even simpler than that. You were proven to be someone easily taken in by the Republican's transparent slanders and baseless innuendoes.

    As far as Biden's actual cognitive abilities I am content to let the proof of the pudding be in the eating. Biden's management of the economy has so far resulted in economic growth head and shoulders above Trump's and indeed better than any in the last 40 years. I suppose we may, (or may not most sane people hope) see how well Mr "person, woman, man, camera, tv" does against someone who is not trying to take away our health care in 2024.
     
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    The Senate is able to strip a person of the ability to hold office in the future, so it makes sense that an impeachment trial be conducted because that is one potential outcome of being found guilty. And lets not pretend like this wasn't a unique situation. A sitting president actually spent months negligently inciting people with lies and fantasies to the point that they thought they could stop the government from certifying an election by rioting in the Capital building. It was unprecedented in this country.
     
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    Joe, why are you being so generous here? He abandoned his post about a month after COVID arrived in the states. He was strictly doing his super spreader events and grooming his groupies to believe a bald-faced lie was true. Why not? He rakes in a sweet couple of $$$millions$$$ for month for keeping that lie alive.

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    They claim he is a "strong leader" but he never takes responsibility for anything. Ever. Anybody else would have been removed long before he could spread his toxicity so far and wide.



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    They never have been. Remember that Republicans are CONSERVATIVES. They are uncomfortable in the modern world and mistrustful of these newfangled types of governance like democratic republics where even the common people have a voice in how things should be run. Do farmers ask their oxen when they should be yoked to the plow? Does the huntsman ask his hounds what prey they should pursue? The hoi polloi exist to serve and to obey. The lower orders are indeed born with saddles and we are the ones gifted with congenital spurs. (which gets them out of the Army too:p)
     
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    It is YOU who are unable to move past Orange man bad.
     
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    How is "Orange man critics bad" any better?
     
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    1. because Republicans aren't as low life as Democrats are, having kangaroo investigations for political purposes

    2. because democrats aren't going to investigate democrats
     
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    Bernie repeatedly incited one of his followers to go shoot up Republicans by calling for revolutions.
     
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    Our country has a lot of problems. The world has a lot of problems. We aren't going to solve anything by going back in time and constantly obsessing about Trump. How about getting inflation under control? How about getting our supply chain fixed? How about getting illegal immigration under control? How about giving employers the tools to fill the positions they have available? How about Ukraine/Russia? How about Iran? How about North Korea? How about China? How about Taiwan? How about Covid? Maybe if the left would quit obsessing about Trump they could get a handle on the problems most Americans actually care about. Trump is no longer president. There is no need to obsess anymore about a has been. If Trumpers want to obsess about Trump then let them while you solve the country's problems. But you won't, because it's more important to you to obsess over Trump.

    Keep in mind that the blue state of Virginia just turned red because Youngkin ran a campaign on tackling problems while his opponent ran against Trump instead of Youngkin. There's a lesson to be learned there if the left would just open their eyes.
     
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    Trump is currently the leader of one of the two major parties, despite trying to overthrow our democratic elections. That's important. One of our two major parties is 100% okay with overthrowing our democratic elections. That's a lot more important than, say, inflation, which really doesn't have anything to do with the president.
     
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    Well, if democrats would quit trying to take Trump out of the picture to bypass the will of the voters, then one of the two parties would no longer be taking democracy away.
     
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