“Red States are paying employees to remain unvaccinated by tweaking unemployment laws”

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  1. archives

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    https://fortune.com/2021/12/11/red-...n-unvaccinated-by-tweaking-unemployment-laws/

    5 GOP-led states extend unemployment aid to workers who lose jobs over vaccine mandates”


    “At least five Republican-led states have extended unemployment benefits to people who’ve lost jobs over vaccine mandates — and a smattering of others may soon follow.”

    “Workers who quit or are fired for cause — including for defying company policy — are generally ineligible for jobless benefits. But Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee have carved out exceptions for those who won’t submit to the multi-shot coronavirus vaccine regimens that many companies now require. Similar ideas have been floated in Wyoming, Wisconsin and Missouri.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...-workers-who-lose-jobs-over-vaccine-mandates/

    If I am not mistaken, many of these same States last fall cut unemployment benefits saying people had to return to the workforce cause of a labor shortage.

    Not to sound condescending, but it appears it depends on who is getting the money, if you personally think those getting benefits are deadbeats, living off the Government, unemployment is a waste, but doling out bucks if someone agrees with your politics is not only alright but encouraged
     
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    I believe the term we are looking for is "patronage".
     
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    I prefer the term, "buying votes".
     
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    Nice way to interpret that all wrong. They’re not paying people to quit or NOT work. They’re just not ****ing people over because Biden and Democrats are fascist and want to control every part of peoples lives.
     
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    They're functionally the same thing. This is just pure corruption. They're buying votes and engaging in patronage.
     
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    Vaccination isnt political. Its a medical choice. And unemployment insurance is taken out of employees pay. Its their money.
     
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    So is abortion.
     
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    I have no problem with the UE.
    Losing a job over a mandate should not happen. Unless the mandate was done at the company level.
     
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    Agreed. So you'll agree with me that people fired for their choice of vaccinating or not and people fired for their choice of aborting or not are all entitled to their unemployment insurance. Right?
     
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    In red states I’d wager that’s the majority of cases.
     
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    I figured they were federal workers or contractors. But maybe not.
    If they are giving UE benefits to those who violated company policy, then that is different. Companies can set policy that workers have to follow or get fired if they don't.
     
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    Well that would apply to federal workers….
     
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    Yep, true.
     
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    Ahh yes, more democrat misrepresentation.

    If they didnt have lies and misrepresentation, they wouldn't have anything lol.

    Lets purposefully misinterpret whats actually happening, give it our own spin, fake some outrage, and use that hate to push more human rights abuses.

    Lol smh.
     
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    Depending on the policy of the entity. The pee for a job policy was enforced for several decades.
     
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    Silly rabbit, unemployment is for the lazy. Those that want to work, but were denied employment due to their belief that bodily autonomy is a right, should be denied unemployment benefits they have paid into for years and forced to live under the overpass in the cold.

    As if we needed more examples of how little the left cares about workers falling on hard times.
     
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    Unemployment or welfare?
     
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    Bodily autonomy is a right in red states? Do they pay people who fail drug tests and get fired?
    These people are voluntarily falling on hard times. They can always get the shots.
     
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    Let's get back to real Science, instead of all this Leftist Authoritarian crap.

    Healthy young people have no need for the vaccine. Mandating such a thing is pure Authoritarianism and is not based on Science. This is especially true, because the same piece of crap that are pushing mandates are ignoring Natural Immunity that has proven time and time again to be far superior to the vaccines.

    The rest of all this noise is just politicos and authoritarians trying to exert their power and control over others.
     
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    Well, this topic is unemployment, but I am happy to discuss welfare, laziness, and creating dependency. I grew up on Welfare and remember the big blocks of government cheese.

    You are incorrect. Being made to decide between supporting your family and consuming a pharma product is far from voluntary. Just look at the distance you had to go to defend the position. Drug tests!!! Really? Whats next, jail for Driving While Unvaccinated!
     
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    Even if we said ok those who have had Covid don’t have to vaccinate, how would we even verify that?
     
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    The same way we verify alot of things, going by peoples word on it.

    Hell, basically all of the "social sciences" do just that.

    The reality is, you are supporting the biggest humans rights abuses in our lifetimes by supporting dems authoritarianism. And it is the republicans fighting back for the working class American by standing against it.
     
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    We don’t take peoples words on the mumps or measles vaccine when they enroll their kids in school.
     
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    Requiring verification is racist!
     
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    No. Buying votes is called Obamacare, forgiving student loans, universal income, welfare, getting person A to pay for person B, free everything to everyone. The left reigns supreme when it comes to vote buying.
     

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