“Slow motion insurrection”

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    “Slow-motion insurrection:’ How GOP seizes election power”

    “In the weeks leading up to the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, a handful of Americans — well-known politicians, obscure local bureaucrats — stood up to block then-President Donald Trump’s unprecedented attempt to overturn a free and fair vote of the American people.”

    “In the year since, Trump-aligned Republicans have worked to clear the path for next time.”

    “In battleground states and beyond, Republicans are taking hold of the once-overlooked machinery of elections. Outside experts on democracy and Democrats are sounding alarms, warning that the United States is witnessing a “slow-motion insurrection” with a better chance of success than Trump’s failed power grab last year.”

    “Governors have a significant role in U.S. elections: They certify the winners in their states, clearing way for the appointment of Electoral College members. That raises fears that Trump-friendly governors could try to certify him — if he were to run in 2024 and be the GOP nominee — as the winner of their state’s electoral votes regardless of the vote count.”

    “Additionally, Republicans argue that state legislatures can name their own electors regardless of what the vote tally says.”

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...7573ba98247c0c

    It appears there is a strong possibility that America could actually have a situation in 2024 where in some States, particularly swing States, the candidate who received less votes could be declared the winner, that the election itself essentially unnecessary, irrelevant, and a waste of time.

    Certainly seems one political party is heading in this direction, slowly dismantling America’s democracy, an experience America or any of us has ever lived through.
     
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    Another cheesy attempt to maintain power. It is short sighted, as typical for Trump. Politics are cyclical and eventually those same districts will go blue, and then where will they be.
     
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    Democrats have challenged the legitimacy of every presidential election they’ve lost: They blamed a corrupt Supreme Court for their defeat in 2000, crooked voting machines in 2004 and Russian interference in 2016 with collusion hoax to knee-cap Trump’s presidency. Now its "deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol" hoax. The only person who died was a "insurrectionist" shot by the police. Reuters reports that the FBI found scant evidence that the riot was an organized plot to topple the government. Coup fantasies.

    Since President Biden’s poll numbers have tanked, his legislative agenda falters and his party’s 2022 prospects look increasingly like crap, Dems are adding a new twist to the tactic: They’re challenging elections before they happen. The intent of this argument is clear, cast doubt on the legitimacy on ALL Republican victories. American liberalism as currently constituted is past its expiration date, it is buckling under the weight of its contradictions.
     
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    End of ****ing story. :applause:
     
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    Another nonsensical insurrection op lol. Democrats are literally pushing the biggest humans rights abuse in our lifetime and they think the other side calling them out on it are the problem.

    the amount of intellectual dishonesty in the analysis that there is any insurrection brewing is astounding.

    the conspiracy theorists are out in force lately.
     
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    We wouldn't want anyone going against the will of the voters, would we?

     
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    Actually governors have little to do with elections in the states and usually the Secretary of State who certifies the election results. And yes the Constitution states that as far as the choosing of the states Presidential Electors it's up to the state legislature as to who they are chosen. And election rules concerning that process are a matter of state law and under what provisions the state legislature would have to choose a slate of electors. It almost happened in Florida 2000 because Gore and the FSC were endangering the results being certified before the safe harbor date passed. They would have done so to protect the states electoral vote.
     
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    Not true, Gore and Kerry formally conceded, as did Hillary, something that Trump never did, and the two “hoaxes” were anything but hoaxes, both have conclusive evidence

    And the rest of your post is nothing one couldn’t hear by tuning in AM radio or Fox anytime of day
     
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    False they were absolutely hoaxes that hadn’t a shread of proof of what they claimed. And the rest of his post is true, which is why you wouldn’t even bother attempting to refute it.

    dems haven’t accepted an election loss without an attempted coup in 20 years
     
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    Yeah right :)

    Bring all that up during the lawsuit with Dominion. !!!!

    As far as those insurrectionists !!!
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...leaders-charged-over-us-capitol-attack-upheld
    A federal judge has refused to dismiss an indictment charging four alleged Proud Boys leaders with conspiracy and obstructing an official proceeding during the 6 January attack on the US Capitol – a development that could have potential implications for Donald Trump.
     
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    Delusional if anyone thinks anything is going to implicate Trump lol
     
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    And done.

    Nope. Anybody that starts a story off with that many lies doesn't deserve to get read.

    That isn't a journalist, that's an activist and an extreme one at that.
     
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    Appears some just can’t handle the truth, Gore and Kerry formally conceded, as did Hillary, something that Trump never did, and the two “hoaxes” were anything but hoaxes, both have conclusive evidence
     
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    False.

    They created fake hoaxes that had zero evidence what so ever that proved their claims.
     
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    Now explain how transferring control over elections from where it has been for the last Century form local election officials to partisan legislatures has anything to do with “pushing human rights abuse?”

    And it is not dishonesty nor conspiratorial, everything in the article can be documented
     
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    You can repeat it as many times as you like, but you will always be incorrect, fact, Gore, Kerry and Hillary all formally conceded, in fact, Gore did it saying he was conceding to insure the proper transformation of power to preserve the democracy, exact opposite of Trump

    And no one can refute that which has yet to be proven
     
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    Ill repeat it because its the objective truth. The FACT is they created hoaxes and attempting coups based on the hoaxes. They never conceded anything.
     
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    Notice with all your stated opinions you didn’t invalidate anything states, says it all
     
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    And yet here even in the third attempt you provided zero proof for anything you bloviated, as I said, nothing one couldn’t hear by turning on AM radio or Fox anytime of the day
     
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    ~ The scary thing is they are actually getting away with it ... :blankstare:
     
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    Well if it's cyclical as you said then other states that were blue will become red.

    Lol
     
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    You are wasting your time. They don't care whether what the GOP state legislatures are doing is ethical, or even constitutional, as long as it helps them to cling to their minority rule. Might makes right.
     
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    You literally sit here with a straight face saying this garbage??!! The left started impeachment hearing the moment Trump walked into office to oust this president.

    Trump conceded better than Hillary did.

     
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    Yes, everything is subject to change. With this issue, the people who voted, can have their votes negated, and that is a serious problem.
     
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